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20th March 2017
 
 
This week's survey 

(These survey questions are sent in by our readers. Please spend a minute to give your answer to this week's survey as one or possibly more of your industry peers thinks this question is important and wishes to see your point of view as well as others in the industry.)  
 

Last week's survey results...
 
How many signies abide by council regulations relating to sign installations by road or footpaths?
  • This is good topic? as all councils have various regulations and understandings of rules? and if the road front as RMS sanctioned road their rules overrule Council rules and can have a different set of guidelines? and they have final approval only after the councils have approved the signage , Just a lot of bureaucratic game playing by them ,it seems to be a power struggle amongst themselves and the client and the Sign company get stuck in the middle of their games. 
  • We usually abide by our local council rules in the CBD area as they have previously shut us down and made us go and fill out the paperwork before they let us continue so I would rather deal with that beforehand and ensure my installation goes smoothly with no interruptions.Our council charges approx $80 fee for CBD works permits which I state to our clients in the quote and show them the permit if they query it. We have also done early morning installs if its only a fairly quick one and not worried with the permits. 
  • Most of the time No. But if the Job is big or on a very busy road. we do full council approval. (Bill, Bremer Signs
  • It depends on the type of sign. If it is a large structure such as a billboard then it is best to follow the rules and get all relevant approvals. If it is a banner or Aframe then you run the gaunlet and 99 times out of a hundred it is fine. It is only if a complaint is lodged with Council that they ever do anything, or occasionally they get a Bee in their bonnet and drive around with a truck throwing them all in the back. The reality is most signs are quoted and if you added all the fees and time required to comply with all regulations you would never get the job. As long as the sign does not pose a safety risk to the public it is not a problem. Also is it the responsibility of the sign provider or the shop owner to make the decision to place an Aframe on a footpath. 
  • They should do if they are being professional and not bringing discredit to our industry.
  • Yes all the time now. We are a based in Regional Queensland and if you didn't apply for a Council Permit, we always had a Worksafe Officer turn up onsite and audit my installers.
    Last year our local council bylaws changed that now require Traffic Control Companies to issue Traffic Control Plans rather than compiling it yourself (this is for paperwork, not for them to be onsite).
    This has added significant cost to jobs; with a 2 hour permit (small jobs including window graphics or changing the acrylic in an underawning sign) now cost $200 in fees for just a Council Permit and Traffic Plan. With 1 day permits costing $550 for the same thing.
  • "If it's outside the boundary of the property, it will need a permit", that's our response to clients. I feel it is our 'duty of care' to advise clients not our responsibility to enforce local council regulations. At the end of the day we are in business to make professional signs that promote local business and events which should be seen as a positive for all the community.
  • I advise every client of the MRD or council laws.Giving them a visual draft of sign details with measurements and frame specs for them to submit to the council/mrd, seeing as I do not do installs. Then it is up to the client.
  • Our Local council have a very active law office and will ping you in a heart beat so it pays to follow the rules. That said, if the client doesn't wish to go down the legal route, I will supply only and let them arrange fitting. If you let a client know the legalities, they rarely have an issue with it. I did a job in whoop whoop a few years ago, in the middle of the bush. It was not legal in that we didn't get council approval but it was in the middle of nowhere. 20 minutes later I got a call from council giving me 20 minutes to take it down. Turns out one of the sign shops I competed with to get the job dobbed me in. Aside from that job, council regulations are pretty easy to work with, so it's not really an issue to do it right the first time.
  • Not many. I would say about 20% do as the council/law requires. Many "signies" will take high risks on Sunday afternoons. It's amazing to see a sign "magically appear" Monday morning in a difficult-to-install location and nobody knows how it got there. DA's sometime get skipped (even for high pylon signs). "Visual Pollution" only applies "sometimes" (depends on who's your friends). Law-abiding honesty does not appear to pay! Councils need to share the blame as some regulations are outright stupid and risk taking is not policed consistently. Everyone knows when the "policing hours" commence. And how do you interpret the regulation: "A sign shall not be garish" - aren't all signs meant to be "bright and showy" (dictionary def.) I've had my whinge - thanks :-) 
     
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