Good morning! 

Count the Run? 

NB wrote:  This question surfaced after it "almost" happened at a Little League tournament game where they were using MLB rules. Man on third with two outs. Batter swings and it is a dropped third strike. The catcher was a little confused, but did tag the batter-runner out before the run scored. The question came up about what if the runner had scored before the batter-runner was tagged out? Some people said that since the batter-runner was tagged out that the run would score because the force was off. Had the batter-runner been thrown out at first, the run would not count. My opinion is that it is a continuation of the play either way and that the run would not count and the inning is over. What is your take? Thanks.

Hi NB,

You are correct.  The applicable rule states that no run will score when the batter-runner makes the third out before touching first base. 

The most significant scenario for this rule is when a batter hits an out-of-the-park grand slam home run, misses first base, touches all the other bases, and is called out on Appeal for the third out for failing to touch first base.  None of the runs would score.  Ouch!

I probably should clarify one thing although I am sure you already know it - although this rule is the same in LLB and MLB, Little League(R) rules have some significant differences from MLB rules, even in the LLB 90' diamond divisions for their 18 year old players. 

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I heard the biggest applause was for the play by play of the "The Ball Yard Brawl".. my personal favorite photo at Fenway park, when Tek gave it to Afraud. Turning point in the '04 season when players became a team and a bunch of idiots won the World Series! Glory days at Fenway and a fitting 100th anniversary memory!

Holly C * CT

I just wanted to say how much I enjoyed the post from Bill * Warner NH. I agreed with 99% of what he wrote, particularly the standards for who to boo and who doesn't deserve it. And he made me laugh about booing people in everyday life. I would love it if that were socially acceptable!

Melissa in CT (enemy territory)

M.V. Fredd on your comment to Terri, did you really need to go there ? Let's move forward from this topic, Patriots camp is opening we all must be looking forward to that.

Side note: Mark NY son fan, what a stroke of luck to have grabbed tickets that turned out to be for Tek Day. Hope you enjoyed it and I think the organization did a great job. Not that he caught Wake, but how cool was it that Wake caught his ceremonial first pitch.

Ed * Hanover

I agree with Mark~NYSoxfan7's post on Varitek's Day. The Day was very well done, bringing in former players and coaches, seeing him with his family and friends, it was a very special day. I did have a lump in my throat at the end. I believe, and I may be prejudiced as I am a HUGE Varitek fan, that a lot of the pitching woes this year are because Varitek isn't there to help. Remember Beckett's first year with the Sox, and how he would shake off pitches from Varitek and then fail. Once he trusted Varitek, he was incredible. I think Beckett is lost without Tek. I also believe he needs to try to adjust to the new catchers and work out his problems. I don't have a lot of faith in the pitching coach this year, and maybe that's also part of the problem. I hope whatever the problems are with the entire team, that they get worked out soon. I don't want to go back to the days pre-2004. As some other person who wrote in said, "We have been spoiled." That is the truth!

Keep the faith, Red Sox fans. Sooner or later, the acts will come together, and we'll be back on top; probably not this year, but in years to come.

Go Sox!

Laura * Waitsfield, VT

Why is it that we have so many members of RSN saying there is no cohesive team spirit? I have witnessed such an event on occasions when we actually have a Red Sox batter get a hit when we have a man or men in scoring position. This has happened during the early and mid-innings, and even more enthusiasm is shown by the entire team when it becomes a 'walk-off' hit in the 9th inning. Of course, during this seasonal drought such an event has become a rarity.

This brings to mind, when I asked my grandson what he wants to be when he grows up, and he tells me he's looking at a great opportunity to be the very first 'Sports Funeral Director for the Red Sox'. Of course, I had to follow up with another question with just "Why", and he explains, "The Red Sox have so many men dying on the bases!"

So, don't be too disheartened by my grandson's planned profession, if we keep putting men on base, surely we can find a revitalized batter that has the capability to drive them home. This would eliminate the removing of their carcasses off of the bases and they can 'live' as a coordinated team and play baseball another day to the momentary joy and happiness for the fans on that particular day.

Rajah * Marlboro

The Red Sox problems started when Larry overruled Ben on hiring a manager. It continued when Larry approved an assistant pitching coach because Bobby did not like McClure. It continued when Bobby thought he was bigger than the team. Then came spring training and Larry kept overruling Ben.You do remember the SS situation. Winning solves a lot of problems. Some problems seemed to go away. Then the team started losing again.

A lot of you people do not understand the job of a coach. . They do not approach the ballplayers unless the players ask for help.

Tony * Ashland

"Our common bond is our team"???? Who wants to argue that? I have one thing to say: Go Yank-------oh hell, I can't even type it as a JOKE. ;)

Martin * ID

Can we all just get along!

Everyone needs to stop and get back to talking about our team, regardless of being pro boo person or not. Good luck to us for today against are biggest enemy! Go Red Sox

Greg * Henderson, NV.

Terri B. Oh boy, where to start. Clearly you don't see that the words you use are exactly the same as booing. You are voicing your displeasure. You aren't being respectful, you aren't being supportive. Your caps lock rant is internet booing.

As for not paying to go to the games, what about season ticket holders? (Let's leave the Corporate ticket holders and only the wealthy can afford them for another discussion). Our family owns two tickets to all 82 home games. These tickets have been in the family for almost 50 years. Due to the huge increase in price, we had to give up two seats and have two left. They are really great seats.

We can't decide to voice our opinion on how the team does by not buying a ticket to the game. We paid for them months ago. What are our options to let the Red Sox organization know we're not happy with what we've shelled out a lot of hard earned money for. Emails go unanswered. As season ticket holders, we used to be invited to town meeting types of get togethers with ownership and Sox brass to talk about any concerns. Since the the team has been in sharp decline, there are no meetings being called. I am a true Red Sox fan, I love my team, I love Fenway, but I don't enjoy what losing does the the team, the town and the fan base. Sometimes, all you can do, is boo.

Al * Holliston