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Participants:
College - University of Wisconsin–Madison's School of Veterinary Medicine
Interviewer - Laura Molgaard
Interviewee - Jim Narlock – Curriculum Manager
Interviewee - Liddy Alvarez – Curriculum Director of OneHealth Access to Care Clinic (WisCARES); Faculty & Professional Skills Course Co-coordinator
Laura: Thanks for joining me today. Could you both start by sharing your roles?
Jim: Sure! I’m the Curriculum Manager.
Liddy: And I’m the Curriculum Director of our OneHealth Access to Care Clinic (WisCARES) and also co-coordinate the Professional Skills course.
Laura: Exciting times—I hear you’ve got a new curriculum about to launch?
Jim: Yes! It launches next week (Fall 2025) and it’s fully built on the CBVE framework.
Liddy: It’s the first full curriculum revision since the school was founded—a huge, multi-year effort.
Laura: What prompted this major overhaul?
Liddy: A site visit pushed us to benchmark against best practices, and we chose CBVE as the anchor.
Jim: The original plan was a full backward design starting from Year 4, but the urgency of the situation meant we had to start with Year 1 and move forward.
Laura: How did CBVE shape the design?
Jim: The competencies and sub-competencies even shaped our committee structure, bringing together both foundational science and clinical faculty.
Liddy: From CBVE, we derived phase-level learning outcomes across four phases—starting with the healthy animal and moving toward the clinical year. Faculty voted on these outcomes, and once approved, they’re fixed.
Laura: So how does that look in practice?
Jim: The curriculum is body-system based in Phases 1 and 2. Faculty co-leads (foundational and clinical sciences) focus on how students demonstrate learning outcomes within those systems.
Liddy: At the session level, outcomes must be explicitly demonstrated. And we’ve developed our own curriculum map that tags learning outcomes, body systems, competencies, and sub-competencies.
Jim: Faculty work with outcomes derived from CBVE, while our Curriculum and Educational Support Team ensures the CBVE mapping is accurate. We’re even exploring AI to support mapping.
Laura: Any particular highlights so far?
Liddy: Yes—When we mapped out our old curriculum, we found some gaps, which we can now address. Fortunately, the student clinical experiences through our WisCARES Community clinic rotation already addressed many of the so-called “hard-to-assess” professional competencies, such as Domain 5.2 "Adapts communication style to diverse audiences", Domain 6.4 "Demonstrates inclusivity and cultural competence", Domain 7.5 "Attends to wellbeing of self and others", Domain 8.1 "Weighs financial factors in personal and business decision-making", as well as all of the new Spectrum of Care (SOC) sub-competencies.
Jim: In the old curriculum, professional skills were siloed in a single course(s) that were marginal and not intentionally integrated. Now, professional competencies are woven throughout all phases both in a separate course and aligned with body system modules.
Liddy: And we had support from the Center for Teaching, Learning, and Management, plus an additional staff member joining our vet school team. We also made sure to include employer and alumni voices to help prioritize what really mattered.
Laura: What challenges have you run into?
Jim: Faculty vary in their willingness to embrace change, especially when it comes to reconsidering content coverage through backward design.
Liddy: But we’ve built in a Continuous Quality Improvement process to surface and resolve issues. Course evaluations, designed by our Curriculum Committee, target outcomes, delivery, and assessment.
Laura: It’s still early days, but what do you hope students will gain?
Liddy: We expect students to experience stronger integration of professional competencies and clearer alignment of learning across phases.
Jim: And faculty and curricular structures are now much better aligned with outcomes-based education. That’s a big step forward.
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