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Exaggeration is a blood relation to falsehood, and nearly as blameable -- H Ballou
Exaggeration as to rhetoric, is using a vast force to lift a feather; as to morals and character, it is using falsehood to lift one's self out of the confidence of his fellowmen -- Paget
There are some persons who would not for their lives tell a direct and willful lie, but who so exaggerate that it seems as if for their lives they could not tell the exact truth -- Paget
Never speak by superlatives; for in so doing you will be likely to would either truth or prudence -- Exaggeration is neither thoughtful, wise, nor safe -- It is a proof of the weakness of the understanding, or the want of discernment of him that utters it, so that even when he speaks the truth, he soon finds it is received with partial, or even utter unbelief -- Hume
|Bluedog Chat - Post By TONI1960 - G.E.T. Forum|
bluedog 11;30CST 1/30/2012 � on: Monday at 01:14:59 AM �
toni (TONI1960): (*) bluedog 11:30 cst 1/29/2012
(TONI1960 bluedog] Khuzaie said in a statement issued by his office after meeting with the Swedish ambassador in Baghdad has received "Twilight News" copy that "Iraq is ready to provide all the guarantees required by the investment companies to enter the Iraqi market for the implementation of major projects."
[bluedog] Parliamentary source, Sunday, that the meeting of the Council of Representatives of the 16 which will be held the day after tomorrow, Tuesday, will see the first and second readings of the nine bills, including the budget 2012 and the lending staff
[bluedog] and again I feel need a Rate before or same time as Buget
[bluedog] saw a article today stating ....in the coming days the rate change would take care of inflation
[bluedog] and change the but rate...Read More
|Jonny Update - Post By Asells 3S's Intel|
Posted Monday, 03:48 PM
[blimpy123] jonnywg the first mouse gets the trap, the 2nd the cheese, the third gets the factory. We wait patiently all together , WITH YOU...and that's that..
[jonnywg] blimpy123 TAKING THE CHEESE AND RUNNING
[jonnywg] THERE MAY NOT BE ANY HIGHER............ MAY ONLY BE LOWER
[chuckw] jonnywg Is there a timeline
[oldcajun5] jonnywg any news on the dong? Will it fall before the dinar?
[jonnywg] oldcajun5 MAYBE
[jonnywg] HEADED TO RESEARCH........... BACK IN AN HOUR
[Jeepgirl] jonnywg good luck in your digging..
[jonnywg] Jeepgirl MIGHT NEED A TRUCK.......... INFO TOUGH TO PULL OUT
|A J's Intel - Post By AJ Anderson OOM Forum|
AJ's Intel 01-30-12 Monday at 10:27 am
Hello Friends and Foes,
At 10:40 pm last night, we have the USD up slightly by .18 @ 79.01, so the so called "lock down" of the UST is doing marginally some good.
Crude is down .50 @ 99.06, Gold down 6.10 @ 1731.20, Silver down .56 @ 33.46
At 8:15 this morning we have the USD up slighly again by .55 @ 79.38, so again the UST is doing marginally some more good.
Crude down .96 @ 98.60, Gold down by 10.50 @ 1726.80, Silver down by .72 @ 33.27 kitco.com/markets/
The Euro against the USD is at 1.30905 up from last week.
No change on the CBI for the IQD, still at 1166. and 1164.
The IQD on the exchange rate is at .0008568 down from yesterday....Read More
|PeopleInvested Chat w/Fresh - Post By Mdj PTR Forum
Posted Today, 02:25 PM
From PeopleInvested Chat with Fresh 1:45 EST Monday:
[Fresh] OKAY FOLKS LISTEN UP... STILL GOT TO MAKE SOME BIGGER CALLS BUT LET'S GET EXCITED [Fresh] Take a look at ALL the information coming out of Iraq right now - don't just focus on the "national conference" - look at Parliament, look at Barzani and the Kurds, look at the Iraqi list - they are all meeting to work out Erbil, Ministers, and everything we've been waiting on!
[Fresh] now take into account all that GREAT information and stack it up against last night's call - it's confirmation of the process we've discussed on our calls for months!
[Fresh] Be excited... if they don't get Erbil (HCL, Ministers, etc) worked out - Barzani has stepped out today and said we are going to do this without the Central Government - or as we've explained for months - the Kurds are going to start paying their bills and force the low rate initially
[Fresh] this is GREAT and everyone needs to be patient!!!...Read More
|Call Notes of Tony/Dan/Gary/ - Post By Highhopes PTR Forum
1PM PTR CC
Replay 760-569-7699 Pin 962696#
MP3 by Buckwheat: http://kiwi6.com/file/u18s5wrkxe
Reg MP3 LINK
Posted Today, 01:49 PM
Here are a few highlights of Dinar intel from todays call. I did not type the chatty stuff.
Dan: Sorry we are late, Some of us are getting serious and trillions of dollars are about to change hands.
How do you give info when you really arn't supposed to say much about it??? We have to put something together that makes sense and protects sources.
I would rather be cautious and stay in a good position then have loose lips and maybe not be in such a good position....Read More
|Jonnywg 3S's Intel Chat Q & A Post By AndieZ1|
11:22 AM CST [jonnywg] HI ALL, TODAY IS SUPPOSED TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. THE RI/RV IS IN THE FINAL STAGES AS FAR AS WE KNOW. MORE INFO TO COME
THIS AFTERNOON. THE UST IS STILL IN LOCKDOWN. THE BANK SCREENS ARE STILL SHOWING LIVE RATES AS PER YESTERDAY. MOST SOURCES SAY ALL IS DONE BUT........
IT IS NOT LIVE ON THE TELLER SCREENS SO...... DO NOT CALL THE BANK
[tc0043] jonnywg Thanks Jonny. Do we know if it`s RI or RV ?
[jonnywg] tc0043 NO COULD BE EITHER
[Dimples] Does that mean there is no trading of currencies, due to not showing?
[jonnywg] Dimples NO ............CURRENCIES ARE TRADING
[jonnywg] POLICY STATEMENT: IF ANY MEMBER IS HARRASSED OR GIVEN INAPPROPRIATE REMARKS BY ANOTHER MEMBER IN CHAT OR PM/IM PLEASE CONTACT A MOD IMMEDIATELY OR CONTACT ME,,Read More
|Poppy3 Chat Post By Blacksquirrel PTR Forum|
Note this was emailed to us thanks Ken
[blacksquirrel] [poppy3] RickeyT no they don't have years they have way to much pending on their end to tary or put off for a long period. Inflation is rising and shabibi hates that he has stated he can't let it get to a certain level or it will be to hard for him to reign it back in.
Also the have ordered ships and aircraft that they need yesterday and construction of these will not start till they have paid a large % of the purchase price. No it will be very soon.
[blacksquirrel] [poppy3] RickeyT the things i mentioned are just a very very few of all that is at stake for them if they don't get-r done very soon. The pressure dr shabibi is under is tremendous and we should all admire him for protecting us as long as he can waiting for stability.
[blacksquirrel] [poppy3] lobster sorry to disagree but imf can't force any country to rv . They can only advise and agree to the rate. it is up to each country to set the time to activate. This come direct from former fed reserve board member. poppy3
|Papajack Chat OOMC|
papajack: I got a call this morning and was told back screens (NOT PUBLIC) were at $3.29 and supposedly going up, but that's not confirmable.
hopeychangey: that's a good sign that something is happening
papajack: Something is happening for a change and that is the GOOD news
jlittle9823 to papajack: Did you hear any indicators as to when it will change over to public screens or the whole RI vs RV thing
papajack: jlittle I have no way of knowing other than waiting like everyone else but I'm hopeful
papajack: I'm thinking this week will at least tell the tale
bigtim to papajack: this hole imf push has been debunked back and forth now .... someone just posted acutal documentation showing imf does NOT have any right to make a coundty rv... so were are we now
papajack: bigtim That is not true, the IMF can't force an RV but they can enforce deals that were made when they loaned Iraq money.
papajack: It's like a capital venture company telling somebody that borrowed money what they need to do to run their company.
papajack: It's like a capital venture company telling somebody that borrowed money what they need to do to run their company.
papajack: Keep in mind there are many well intentioned people that give opinions but nobody will be right until we leave the bank
papajack: Myself included
|Arizonaheat/Lojak/Hawaii Tidbits - MIG & 3S's Intel Chat|
Misc: tidbits from MIG and 3sintel Monday morning: Thanks to Highhopes & Shybaby from PTR Forum
[Arizonaheat] Squirrelcheeks no, there has been a long drug out process that has stoped them from doing this. It became more about global realignment that Iraq, so several negotiations were taking place. but with that being said,
the time has come for the IMF to put an end to the posturing of individuals who refuse to end this. Iraq is in default and they have been for a long time.
blimpy123] Look at IMF as your banker, would you want to make your banker mad...common sense says that Iraq WILL work with the IMF, irregardless of current loan, because they need their support long term, as every country does. This is fledgling
[Arizonaheat] The IMF doesnt want oil, they want monry. so all the oil in the world doesnt help the IMF
hawaii] lojak then why are we sitting here on a monday after all weekend of hearing that IMF already pulled the trigger on friday? Because its nonsense thats why
[hawaii] for those who want real info, the gov employees get paid thursday, it is supposed to be in "new value" currency. You will no doubt hear this repeated all day by others and claimed as their own, thats cool, as long as the true info gets circulated...I will take one for the team...Read More
|Will Vietnamese Dong Revalue ? Post By Miskebam OOM Forum
Will vietnamese dong revalue 2011-2012forex trading outlook today - Will vietnamese dong revalue 2011-2012 :
The process of currency revaluation refers to an active decision of any government to increase or decrease the currency value in relation to other currencies. Revaluation is characteristic of fixed currencies, wherein the currency is pegged to another currency.
The official currency
of Vietnam, the Dong is divided
into 10 Hao, which are subsequently divided into 10 Xu. However, the Hao and the Xu are no longer issued and hence insignificant. The Dong was revalued in the mid 80's with the new Dong rising to equal 10 old Dongs.
By allowing the VND to revaluate
against the Dollar, prices of industrial input materials including fuel and steel billet can be checked, and promote domestic production with a greater domestic supply.
A strong currency would imply lower VND deposit interest rates too. It will help attract investment too. The State Bank of Vietnam widened the USD/VND trading band from �0.25% to �0.5% in 2007 to tackle the strong inflows of foreign currency that had caused an appreciation of the VND.
If you are looking at the Vietnamese Dong for investment
, there is no better time than right now. The Dong has been under pressure for sometime now but the overall picture has remained compelling.
With a young population, which boasts of 90% literates, labor cheaper than China and a variety of raw material exports - the Vietnamese market
is a good option for investors who are prepared to deal with slight volatilities.
With the World Trade Organization accepting Vietnam as a member, it can now compete on an equal footing with other export-oriented economies. Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/4463923
|Arizonaheat 3S's Intel Chat Post By AndieZ1|
9:48 AM [Arizonaheat] OK, i needed to make a call on the IMF and what they can do to force a revalue its just like a venture capital company that invest into a company. They will look into the company, the management team and look at the progress.
They put in a managment plan. If the plan isnt being adhered to they have the right to step in to make sure they secure their money.
Its the same with the IMF. The IMF loaned Iraq other people's money, such as Great Britain, the US , China etc. They need to answer to those people (countries) as to the future of their money.
With that management plan, they have the right as agreed by Iraq to obtain their loans, to set thier currency to ensure that the money loaned is paid back AND they have done this before (the IMF) - revalued a country's currency with the OK of the country itself.
This country was India. They woke up one day and their currency was RV'd BECAUSE they had loans through the IMF. If India "did not" have loans through the IMF, it is correct that the IMF could not force them to revalue.
|BellaGrits 3S's Intel Chat Post By AndieZ1
9:05 AM [BellaGrits] Good morning to the best site on the dinarian net!!!!!! Just wanted you to know I stayed on a conference call for over 2 hours late last night, obtaining a great deal of info----
things look great....as you know the ole "duct tape" prevents me going into specifics....you can get more details from others....however, I've always been honest with you (ask DAN)
I assure you it's all good!!!! We are in the best place; I am extremely positve and happy....I am making plans for this week to make major changes.....
Thank you all for knowing you have the remarkable leaders you do such as Jonny (who has taken a beating over giving you facts), BWM, truly a remarkable man, and DinarWishes-- great guy and is really a true leader.
I hope this journey has meant as much to you as to me, as difficult as it has been...one more thing, Studley may not tell you all what you want to hear, but he tells you what he knows to be true--I admire that....he is a great guy.
Soonerfan62 has really stepped it up with our duct tape situations.....Shasta7.....wow, there are so many here......you can't get any better. We have the best MODS! I can't stress enough how hard their jobs are....Please know this site GREAT!!!!!!!!
The below posts were in our 10am email
|Dinarwishes Update - Post By Highhopes PTR Forum|
DinarWishes] Lets See its 6:58 CST.... We have a couple hours for a small update at the bank then another major one at 2pm CST and I am hopefull to have more intel by then that I can share....
Its been a very quiet weekend and we have very little intel for today.... But lets see what the day brings and hopefully get a better Idea of where we are exactly...
|Med Chat - Post By GiGi Dinar Speculator|
Med chat 11:45pm 1/29/12
Med says to (01:10:04): HI GANG I DIDNT KNOW THAT MY BUD SONNY
WAS TRYING TO CALL ME ALL DAY AND THEN HE TEXT ME
AND THEN HE EMAILED ME
GiGi says (01:18:38): what did you think about sonny's article?
Med says to (01:18:53): OUTSTANDING AND SONNY MADE A MAJOR FIND
GiGi says (01:19:02): thought so too
Med says to (01:19:11): NOW COMING DAYS TO ME IS THIS COMING MONTH
I KNOW THEY ARE HAVING MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH IRAN
IRAN IS PURPOSELY TRYING TO DISRUPT THE MONETARY POLICY
AND CORRUPT THE SYSTEM...Read More
|Sonny1 Post - Dinar Speculator|
Re: rv.......coming days -- Sunny1 Administrator Dinar Speculator
great read, they must be running out of u.s.d because they are using it to buy back dinar, and they must have to start using dinar....... great news wait and see is all we can do
it seems to me that since they sold a large portion of u.s.d to re-buy dinar, they might be running below there limit.
the only thing they can do is raise the value of there currency, and have purchasing power in iraqs walls.... god i hope this article comes true here is the translation :
Parliament: the central bank faces the problem of smuggling hard currency to Iran...Read More
|Jonnywg 3S's Intel Chat Post By Katt|
[jonnywg] Midnight different sources higher up.... weeding out the smoke.... great people on this site to confirm............................ but .no cashin till it is posted.but looks good
Bigdog55] jonnywg as of now are we looking still at an RI
[jonnywg] Bigdog55 word is iraq applying for renegotiation but no confirmation
[jonnywg] still if they agree it must be quick
[chillimac] jonnywg with who , miss lagarde?
[jonnywg] chillimac yes imf
[flashgordon] jonnywg what does that mean and what is the timing with that
[jonnywg] flashgordon no info on timing but will be soon and will be public
[chillimac] jonnywg they have to prove to her they can cover their big rate they want?
[jonnywg] chillimac they have to agree to terms offered already
[chillimac] jonnywg jonnywg YO ROCK SIR
[diesel] Johnny are we looking at this week?,,Read More
|Okie Oil Man Chat Post By EZ OOM Forum
OKIEOILMAN: IT SEEM'S AS THOUGH THINGS ARE AT A FEVERED PITCH PRESENTLY. FROM WHAT I AM HEARING EVERYTHING SEEM'S TO BE VERY NEAR FOR US.
LET'S KEEP THE CORPORATE PRAYERS GOING TO SEE THIS ACCOMPLISHED. I AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT INTEL RECEIVED TODAY.
IT APPEARS PRAYERS AND DREAMS ARE COMING TO REALIZATION. THERE ARE MANY RUMORS FLOATING AROUND THAT HAS SUBSTANCE AND SOME THAT ARE NOT SO ACCURATE IN THEIR STATEMENTS.
AT LONG LAST AT LEAST THEIR ARE ACTIVITY HAPPENING. WE ARE NOW IN A HISTORIC MOMENT THAT WILL BE REMEMBERED AT LEAST IN OUR GENERATION. TO GOD BE THE ETERNAL THANKS FOR THIS BLESSING.
KEEP ALERT AND DON'T BE APPREHENSIVE AS IT WILL SERVE NO FUNCTIONAL PURPOSE.. JUST SIT BACK--RELAX--AND LET THE TURN OF EVENTS PLAYING OUT COME TO FRUITION. I AM VERY EXPECTANT--NUFF SAID!!!
OKIEOILMAN: IT WOULD SEEM ILLOGICAL FOR AN RI AS IT WOULD NOT FULFILL THE NECESSITIES OF THEIR BUDGETARY REQUIREMENTS
OKIEOILMAN: IF AN RV OCCURS THEIR ARE POSSIBILITY OF RATE CHANGE SOON THEREAFTER,,Read More
|Soonerfan62 3S's Intel Chat Post By Highhopes PTR Forum|
Posted Sunday, 09:00 PM
soonerfan62] Guys yes I have a little news as of 45 minutes ago I will tell you the IMF is backing off
[soonerfan62] That means IMO that they believe that Iraq will be RVing and will not have to force an RI
[lojak] as I said earlier, we are back to an RV
[soonerfan62] The IMF was forcing the RI in Iraq would not RV on the own, every intel person in the world has told you that
[soonerfan62] I always read the forums before I come on and let me assure jonny, lojak, freeway and all the rest are right on, except Dan LOL
[soonerfan62] The fact that the IMF is convenced that Iraq will RV after all the times that they were suppose to is HUGE"Read More
|Cap1 Chat - Post By Shybaby PTR Forum|
Posted Sunday, 08:15 PM From Cap1 chat...
[chosen4this] Did we get any word at 12 cst
[..CAP1] chosen4this - NO, WHICH MEANS IT COULD BE AN RV COMING!
[..CAP1] GOOD EVENING GUYS!! GREAT DAY FOR AN RI OR AN RV!!!! I'LL SETTLE FOR EITHER!
[skysthelimit] ..CAP1 so cud an Rv show tomorow? or u think Tues instead and we see it comin
[..CAP1] skysthelimit -COULD SHOW TONIGHT OR TOMORROW OR WEDNESDAY.
[Bob.s] ..CAP1 I think your right. I think pride and wanting to maintain control will force the RV.
[Bob.s] ..CAP1 As for timing. I think LaGaurd will maintain the heat. So I think sooner, much sooner that we might think.
[..CAP1] Bob.s - I WAS BEING VERY CONSERVATIVE!!...Read More
|People Invested Call Notes - Post By Denaridori G.E.T. Forum|
Transcript: People Invested 1-29 � on: Sunday at 06:33:42 PM � Notes Are For First Hour -
A GREAT CALL! People Invested CC - Jan. 29th with Wangdang & Fresh
DISCLAIMER: These are ROUGH notes typing it as fast as possible.
To hear the entire call with accurate verbatim, go to the call now (one hour in) at 209-647-1600 Pin: 621116# or call the replay 209-647-1699 Same pin www.PeopleInvested.com
Wangdang - This letter is one of the most powerful things since Erbil....he used Erbil as a model to write this letter....it talked about prisoners held without lawyers...generals being promoted by Maliki without permission - he was trying to take this country over by force.
He didn't have to write without the permission of the Parliament...this dude was doing terrible things and Allawi started putting the pen to the paper telling us about everything he did.
I explained in depth, I don't need notes...M. left the convention and went back to Baghdad...he immediately tried to dismantle Erbil - he used the constitution to keep his office and now he put together the best and brightest minds to use the constitution to dismantle Erbil....Read More
|Lojak 3S's Intel Chat Post By Rose|
[lojak] for the record, I do not agree with much that this AJ from recaps is saying. First of all he is right that it will take forever for the USD to get back to .86. We are not going to wait on that. Secondly though, I dont agree with him about the IMF. The IMF has the right to many things with
[lojak] regards to iraq as they have large loans to iraq. AJ may be market savy, but I do not agree with him at all. [lojak] just wanted to weigh in on this AJ post. I have read a few things from him and generally dont agree. things are in motion now.
[lojak] OK,here is an article which may or may not have some bearing. Like I say, articles can be helpful for can also be full of bs as well....but this may have some clues for us. Carmina is posting the linkhttp://translate.goo...ews%26id%3D7827
[lojak] the article says "by setting the exchange rate" they can solve inflation and smuggling of currency
[lojak] I just heard from a couple of good sources that they are leaning towards an RV not an RI..stay tuned
[TUG] lojak woo hoo any word on the date PLEASE
[lojak] TUG not a date or rate guy, but they did say by tuesday..shhhhhh
[lojak] Lets not get carried away with exact times..you all should know better just ask the master of that BWM ,,
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