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kaperoni: Tonight's chat is more of an open Q & A chat.  So if you have questions after I am done we will take them one at time.   Please take turns and let me answer before we post another.   Ok?

kaperoni: Ok, lets get in the articles I have first....  I did bring in a few articles that I though we should look at. Here is one.

kaperoni: Article...

kaperoni: Signing of the cooperation protocol between Kurdistan and Dubai in the stock market and currencies

kaperoni: We all have seen articles in recent weeks about the ISX, the upgrades they are going through to promote the investment activity in the region.  The Kurdistan office will support the Iraqi economy and financial to global markets and openness the countries of the world. That is planned for January 2013.  Now today, in this article we see some great quotes...
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[OKMama] kids I saw that dinarstars was on here, but didn't see them state anything about a intel limit. I know that PTR requested that none of there stuff be posted. Who else did?

 [kids] OKMama he didn't say--only post what is emailed to site--at least that is what I understood

 [kids] puppylove GA - Good day for rv

[puppylove] kids yes indeed!

[OKMama] kids Hmmm....interesting. Perhaps because there really isn't anything new to share. I'm in "the "camp" that all is done and we are just waiting. Trying to wait patiently.

[kids] OKMama hopefully it's good news---never been done before that I know of

 [OKMama] kids Truly - it was kind of weird over the weekend how everyone was appearing as if they were saying goodbye. Made me take a step back and wonder about that. I was like, "Hmm... do they know something we don't know?"

[kids] OKMama exactly....but nothing so far TK stating once again this wk after Tuesday..who knows just hoping and praying

 [OKMama] kids I'm adding my praying with yours!
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10-15-12 Dontlop: I think if Shabibi has an ongoing plan and he was told he had full control and his time isn't up. They wont be able to do anything about it.

It's very possible he has more than one set of books. If you were going to secretly revalue a currency you couldnt publish everything so everyone could follow your secret plan.

The government of Iraq could jeopardize his plan if he is forced to open the books to prove his innocence. It would be over. All they have access to is one set of books.

The question is are there more than one set of books in a situation like this one and some higher ups are pushing to see what's on that other set of books so they can have an inside trading advantage. So far if there is other sets of books its been a good job keeping them hidden.

Could Maliki's ignorance lead to the destruction of the last 5 years work of Dr Shabibi when he could be next to finishing the job and never being able to implement his policy since it was exposed?

10-15-12 LoriC: "CBI -Shabibi holds a document signed by Maliki to protect the corrupt!" Maliki has picked a fight with the wrong guy and this may prove to be his downfall. Shabibi has the dirt on him and is going to expose his corruption. This whole scheme was hatched by Maliki to take control of the CBI. The warrant was issued directly following parliament rejection of giving Maliki control over independent bodies, including the CBI because it was unconstitutional. This may turn out to be just what we needed to expose the real corruption, get rid of the Prime Minister and establish a power sharing government.
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10-15-12 Revbo: "The World Bank is interested exceptional developments and action is unprecedented and unexpected against Iraqi Central Bank Governor and governor Shabibi." Sounds like the World Bank is kinda throwing Shabs under the bus.

If I'm reading this right, they're saying something like, we like Shabibi and don't think anything will come of this, but if you're gonna throw him in jail, we want one of our guys in his place.

I expected something more like, the charges against Shabibi are political in nature and without merit. The World Bank demands they be dropped, and Governor Shabibi be allowed to continue his work unimpeded.

As others have said, Shabibi seems to be waiting for the perfect time to push the button, and there isn't going to be a perfect time until well after the world economy is trashed even more than it already is.
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1:14 AM [yutakahime] I no longer have TV service. Haven't had it since August of last year.

1:15 AM [BWM] yutakahime been longer than that... but you can find decent workarounds with internet

1:16 AM [ono62] BWM hey guy, how r ya

1:16 AM [BWM] ono62 what's up...

1:16 AM [yutakahime] BWM Yes, but my daughter usually likes to play her games on the 'good'
computer, so unless it's truly important, I don't get to see what's on TV.

1:16 AM [BWM] sorry had to step away for some calls...

1:17 AM [ono62] BWM barbq and politics

1:17 AM [yutakahime] BWM Welcome back.

1:17 AM [BWM] yutakahime haha... I know that feeling... we crash booted an xbox... so we can sneak around on that
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Bank of  Japan - IMF High-Level Seminar

"Challenges of the Global Financial System: Risks and Governance under Evolving Globalization"

Opening Remarks By Christine Lagarde, Managing Director, International Monetary Fund

Tokyo, October 14, 2012   As prepared for delivery

Good afternoon. I would like to welcome you to our seminar. When I first looked at the list of panelists and > keynote speakers, I realized that the title of today's event is a bit of an understatement. This is not just a        "high-level" seminar. It truly is a seminar at the highest level, given the caliber of our participants.

Of  course, this event would not have been possible without the collaboration of the Bank of Japan. And I would like to thank Governor Shirakawa and his staff for their hard work and generous hospitality.  I will talk briefly about two things:

i) key financial stability risks and

(ii) the role of global cooperation and governance.
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[millionday] Announced in Baghdad yesterday announced the completion of President Jalal Talabani for his meetings with all the political blocs and national forces and the outcome of this effort Emphasizes the need to reform and work on holding bilateral meetings, triple and possibly quadruple the future. A member of a coalition of state law, Abbas al-Bayati �Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network �that everyone adheres to the need to get out of the crisis and end the current differences through the vision of reform may not meet all Maibgon but can achieve 50 percent, ask.

[millionday] He Bayati �We have access to two things before you begin the final phase, the first to reach a truce in the media discourse second thing encircle the crisis so that the Ataattor or worsen and determine its framework and this in itself will help to communicate and convergence within the framework of the participants are reluctant differences and then shift to solutions and try to dismantle the crisis PDF files are working to resolve it. Al-Bayati said �We support the draft Talabani strongly goal collects parties and the National Alliance project with President Talabani, head off project from a single point and have the same end.

[millionday] note -- this is about the upcoming national and how they are going to finish


Monday Mid-Day Streaming Updates Call - Oct 15th (3pm EST) with BGG

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(Debtarheelgirl)  ( Oct 15 6:55 AM ) :  MANIFESTATION, MONDAY- (2 Corinthians 4:18) "While we do not look at the things which are seen but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal" - Look at the things coming together to manifest Gods purpose for your life as an enjoyable adventure! There is more to your life than what is happening right now.

By faith "see" the big picture and don't be moved by what it looks like in the natural. As with any adventure, unexpected twists and turns will happen. But trust God for He is your "guide", and He loves you. Stand on His Word, be patient and prayerful, take one step at a time, think before you act, don't make emotional decisions, make wise choices, and watch as His plans and purpose unfold.

(Debtarheelgirl)  ( Oct 15 6:55 AM ) Just as a caterpillar metamorphs into a butterfly, things are changing, another new season has begun, and the best is yet to come!!! Peace and blessings! Steph

[heyu288] Annoucement:::: There is Hope for the World and RV!! The Cleveland Browns WON a game yesterday!! If that can happen the possiblities are endless....... just don't give up and praying IT can Happen!!

[Jester] heyu288 yeah but look how long THAT took!

 [heyu288] Jester Shorter time that we have been waiting for RV!! so we are due!! rofl
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The below posts shaded in green
are on our Iraqi News page
Presidency of the Parliament meets with heads of parliamentary blocs to comply, inter alia, amnesty laws and infrastructure
2012-10-15 13: 10: 58 Monday

Baghdad (newsletter) : The Presidium of the House of representatives held a meeting with leaders of the political blocs about the series of important laws, including the amnesty and legal infrastructure.

Reporter (News Agency news): the meeting in constitutional Hall, between the Presidency and Parliament, heads of parliamentary blocs, to reach agreement on a number of important laws, including the amnesty and legal infrastructure and the Federal Court, after the speaker of the House of representatives meeting for hours.

Click for Link

 

Exchange company circumvent Iraqi Iraqis have transferred money to Jordan
10/15/2012

BAGHDAD / JD : Revealed captain cashiers Jordanian Alaa Deiranieh, that the value semi-final scam carried out by the exchange company based in Baghdad and its subsidiary in Jordan, reached $ 73 million.

erupted that case in August last year, after the Iraqi traders transfer funds through foreign exchange company in Baghdad to another company registered in the Kingdom, where he proceeded agreed time without receipt of funds from those merchants.

confirmed Iraqi traders to Al-Ghad Jordanian involvement owner EXCHANGE (p. p) and two others are (c, c), f (x, t ).

 

Sources in the Central Bank: Shabibi holds a document signed by al-Maliki to protect the corrupt
10/15/2012 11:46 AM

Integrity Commission issued an arrest warrant for Iraqi Central Bank Governor Sinan al-Shabibi and sixteen other officials, including the deputy governor of the Central Bank the appearance of Mohammed Saleh.

Shabibi participate and benefit global conference in Tokyo, while banking sources revealed that "Shabibi submitted a letter to the Iraqi judiciary bears the signature of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki prevents the removal of corrupt from the central bank after proving involvement in money laundering."

While confirmed the Integrity Committee parliamentary access an arrest warrant against Central Bank Governor Sinan al-Shabibi, revealed parliamentary committee overseeing the central bank, said investigations proved the existence of sale of foreign currency to banks and corporations themselves and that has smuggled to neighboring countries, in a reference to Iran, which suffers of economic sanctions.

 

National Alliance agrees unanimously on infrastructure law amendments agreed upon
Monday 15 October 2012

Agencies - and approved by the political body of the National Alliance, at its meeting held on Sunday evening, headed by Ibrahim al-Jaafari, which was attended by members of the Commission of all components of the coalition and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, a law infrastructure modifications agreed upon.

The head of the Iraqi National Alliance Ibrahim al-Jaafari in a press conference after the meeting: Meeting Today political body all represented figures resisting at the leadership level, and we hosted the brother of the Prime Minister Alhaji Nuri al-Maliki, and invested this meeting; to identify what led him to his meetings in his recent visit to Russia and Czechoslovakia, and listened to a detailed report on his visit, at the same time taken the political decision on the overall bills raised in Parliament, has met word coalition to agree unanimously on the Law of the infrastructure changes that they have agreed after listening to the observations that took place through a series stages in the House of Representatives.

 

Parliament votes on the six laws and raise its until after the Eid al-Adha
October 15 2012

Baghdad Ambassador: News: The House voted in the twenty-ninth session, which was held under the chairmanship of Osama Najafi, head of the House of Representatives and in the presence of [177] deputies today on six after raising its laws until after the Eid al-Adha and on the sixth of next month.

A statement from the Department of Media in the House of Representatives received the agency Ambassador Uznschh him today he was "at the beginning of the meeting initiated by any of the Holy Quran Council voted on a draft law on ratification of agreement legal and judicial cooperation in criminal matters between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran and submitted by the committees on Foreign Relations and legal, security and defense and human rights for the purpose of effective cooperation in the legal and judicial field in criminal matters in accordance with the principles of national sovereignty and non-interference in the internal affairs of each other. "

 

Maliki meets Obama's envoy
October 15 2012

Baghdad / NINA : Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki received today Dennis Mcdonna the U S President Barack Obama envoy.

A familiar source said to NINA , Latest developments of the political situation and the Syrian crisis has been profoundly discussed during the meeting.

http://www.ninanews.com/English/News_Details.asp?ar95_VQ=GEDIDH

 

FINANCE COMMITTEE DEMANDS ACCUSERS TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE AGAINST SHABIBI; FEARS HE IS A POLITICAL TARGET
October 15 2012

Financial demands parliamentary indictees Governor of the Central Bank to provide evidence
Demanded the Finance Committee in the Iraqi Council of Representatives, on Monday, central bank governor accusers to provide evidence, expressed his fear that these accusations are "targeted" politically Bank.

He said the Commission's decision Ahmed electrodes in a press statement, "that" those who accuse the central bank governor Sinan al-Shabibi corruption by providing evidence and clarify openly and transparently to make sure there is corruption a real central bank and its affiliates, " and expressed his fear that "these charges against bank governor Central targeted politically. "

The electrodes, a deputy for the Iraqi List, "the Finance Committee did not pray any evidence about the central bank governor accused of corruption," likely "to be the target of such accusations is to influence the independence of the central bank."

 

SHABIBI RETURNS TO WORK AT CBI
Monday, October 15 2012 08:44

Shabibi reach Baghdad and initiate work at the Central Bank

BAGHDAD / obelisk: government source said on Monday that the Central Bank Governor Sinan al-Shabibi arrived, the capital, Baghdad, and began his duties.

The source told "obelisk", "Central Bank Governor Sinan al-Shabibi arrived in Baghdad this morning, and immediately went to his office at the headquarters of the bank to carry out his functions as usual."

The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, that "Shabibi went to the bank as soon as arriving in Baghdad from the Japanese capital Tokyo, where he was attending the annual business Friday Monetary Fund and the World Bank."

 

CBI CONFIRMS THE RETURN OF GOV. SHABIBI TODAY
15-10-2012 10:00 AM

Denied the Iraqi Central Bank yesterday news escape governor Sinan Shabibi against the backdrop of corruption charges brought against him by the special commission of inquiry formed recently to discuss the �suspicions manipulation in the market for hard currency�, as demanded Economic Commission parliamentary introduced the report of the fact-finding about the manipulation financial parliament session today.

The �coalition of law, led by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki announced in August last the formation of a special commission of inquiry Central Bank mission access to records and numbers, sales and people who earn hard currency, a committee is different from the fact-finding committee set up by Parliament previously.

A source from within the office of the governor of the Central Bank's �life� that �the investigation did not begin until today, and all of it is that three people from the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers came to the bank last Wednesday to meet with the governor and talk to him, and when they learned it out of the country demanded his presence to the Secretariat immediately after his return to direct him some questions.


The below posts were in our 10am email
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While some of these recent  articles may have information  that is very familiar to many  and could be  considered "old hat" or already in  your memory  bank - please don't  discount its value - this could be very beneficial for  younger couples just  getting  started  - passing it along to them  would  be doing them a favor - 

Savings 101  By Alden Wicker

You may not know it yet, but your savings account is like your best friend: Treat it well during the good times, and during the tough times it will be there to take care of you.

Unfortunately, many Americans aren't treating savings accounts with the love and respect they deserve. 64% of Americans don't have enough stashed away to handle even a $1,000 emergency expense. Hey, we get it. Between paying for gas to and from work and catching up with friends over dinner, it's easy to think, "I'll start saving when I get that raise."

But you'll wish you had thought of little ways to save here and there the day you get that $1,000 surprise. Plus, the habit of saving can help you achieve dreams, such as taking a big trip to Argentina or buying your first home.

Read on to find out why saving is so important and how to do it.
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So What Really Counts as a Financial 'Emergency'?    Gabrielle Karol

Situation #1: It's a friend's wedding, your ex-boyfriend will be there with his new girlfriend and you need an absolutely perfect dress to wear.

Situation #2: A once-in-a-lifetime opportunity presents itself for you to go on a trip to Tahiti ... but you haven't exactly been saving up for a vacation like this.

 Situation #3: It's your best friend's 30th birthday party, and a mutual friend has suggested that a group of you put in for a present that's just a little more expensive than you had been planning on (even though you're only paying a fifth of it).
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    Med (14:37:28):    I HAVE BEEN IN AND OUT    BUT PAYING VERY CLOSE ATTENTION    TO WHAT TRANSPIRED    SINCE I PUT THE KISS OF DEATH OUT    I LOVED    THE QUICK ACTION    AND RESPONSES    NOT ONLY BY OUR TOP PEOPLE    BUT FROM THE UN    AND OTHERS

    pballone:   Glad I didn;t read it this morning, I would have got nothing done. What happened?    Ok I will go read it later.

    guardian: fabricated as shabibi said, but there may be others involved, but not shabibi imo

    pballone: I have a lot of trust in Shabs

    Med: YES GUARDIAN

    guardian:   no need to take him down for what others did, he needs to maintain the cbi    if they did anything at all, waiting for proof

    GAU-8: looks like Turkey has banned all Syrian flights over there country now, things heating up
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[Soonerfan62] GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, JUST FELT LIKE COMING IN TONIGHT TO SAY HELLO TO EVERYONE AFTER MAKING A STATEMENT THE OTHER NIGHT AND JUST LEAVING. I DO HAVE ONE THING TO SAY "HOW BOUT THOSE SOONERS"! OK GUYS, YOU KNOW THE RULES, NO RATES OR DATES...............

[Soonerfan62] debtarheelgirl WE NEED THAT TEXAS BBQ REAL QUICK OR IT'S GOON GET COLD

[diverdown] Soonerfan62 What can you share with out causing any problems?

[Soonerfan62] diverdown EASY WE ARE BETTER SHAPE THAN EVER

[MrMiyagi] Soonerfan62 do u think we will see the RV prior to the election?

[Soonerfan62] MrMiyagi JUST MY OPINION, OF COURSE

[lovely] Soonerfan62 Soonerfan62 will it change the course of the election?

 [Soonerfan62] lovely ONE WAY OR THE OTHER

[Soonerfan62] GUYS THE NEWS THAT debtarheelgirl AND I HAVE RECEIVED FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS IS LIKE STEPPING STONES TO OZ. EVERY STEP IS NECESSARY TO TAKE US TO OUR BLESSING
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WANG DANG CONFERENCE CALL

SUNDAY, OCTOBER 14,2012

RECORDING LINK

PLAY BACK 530-881-1399 PIN 111646

59 Minutes
healthscans] This was emailed to me

[healthscans] Here is from a Retired State Dept Economist: I have ran these figures and followed the process several times, according to the figures it will only cost Iraq about $15000.00 per million to RV the IQD. This will not even put a dent into their reserves. Even with a $3.00 plus RV there isn't enough IQD in circulation to wipe-out their reserves. Everyone needs to read this..

[healthscans] I will also tell you that most Banks will automatically wave the spread. Banks will make their money from the difference between the bank rate and the UST rate which can range between 2 to 20% ... suspect approximately 8 %

[healthscans] Retired State Dept economist: In our 40+ year career as a Retirement Consultant we have been blessed to meet some very talented professionals. One of them is a retired State Dept. economist who introduced us to the IQD investment in 2005. He had worked on the original plan to install a new monetary system for Iraq after the 2003 invasion.

[healthscans] He had originally indicated that the plan was for the IQD to achieve financial parity with the USD over a 7-10 year period from the introduction of the new system. At that time the USDs use would be completely discontinued and it would be replaced by the IQD for in-country use and international exchange. The variable factor in the timetable would be the political environment.
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6:15 PM [Precious] Friday, 12 October 2012 15:30 Another Executive Order Allows Seizure of Americans' Bank Accounts Written by Bob Adelmann The latest executive order (EO) emanating from the White House October 9 now claims the power to freeze all bank accounts and stop any related financial transactions that a "sanctioned person" may own or try to perform - all in the name of "Iran Sanctions."

6:16 PM [SpecialAgentGibbs] 2 subsequent news articles about the supposed Shabs warrant, one says it was quickly rescinded, the other says it was completely false.

6:17 PM [jwaynec] SpecialAgentGibbs Thanks SAG

6:17 PM [SpecialAgentGibbs] Precious That's a scary one. What would prevent them from making a declaration that anyone who might deposit say, over $5M into a bank account should be automatically "sanctioned"?   Either way on Shabs, someone said "you want us to arrest WHO???"
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[bluwolf] I HONESTLY HOPE THAT YOU ARE STILL AS I HAVE LEFT YOU BEING POSITIVE AT ALL TIMES

[bluwolf] I HONESTLY HOPE THAT YOU ARE STILL AS I HAVE LEFT YOU BEING POSITIVE AT ALL TIMES

[bluwolf] SHABBIBI LOVES HIS COUNTRY,HE IS VERY WEALTHY,HE IS A GENUIS IN ECONOMICS,HIS BOOKS ARE BEING SHARED IN HARVERD,HE HAS NO NEED TO COMMIT FRAUDE,HE IS NOT A TRAITOR TO HIS COUNTRY NOR TO THE WORLD

[bluwolf] WHY DO YOU KEEP ENSISTING IN ME GIVING OUT A DATE OR A RATE,,YOU KNOW THAT I WILL NOT GIVE ANY..

[bluwolf] INSISTING

[bluwolf] THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO CONFUSE YOU,THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO SEE YOU IN DISCONFORT

[masterT] Sorry Bluwolf..no rate nor date but are we ASN..to use an old acronym... ...

[bluwolf] masterT ALL IS NEAR OK
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Greetings and Salutations;

 More than anything, I want the return of my freedom, that's only because I Know what freedom is. Not some political statement based on jingoisms, but the kind you know in your gut. Waking in the morning and proceeding thru the day with no, 'have tos' or 'got's tos'.

Total silence, with no niggling worries about anything. What happens when freedom comes each day, you make decisions based on what you choose with no threat of somebody in a uniform ringing your doorbell with papers to serve for you to be in some court.

Personally, I don't think many are ready to live without arbitrary rules, hey need them as a guardrail, living without them is too scary.

 That freedom, and not just for people of color is arriving for All people, white, black, green, or indifferent. It's bad, when you're a slave and don't know it. When the cell door opens, you're afraid to venture out. Got so used to the 4 walls, you thought that Was the world.
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