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[bluwolf] buenas tardes

[mbillions] bluwolf Hi Blu... good to see you...

[bluwolf] just by to say hello. I want all to keep the faith for all is still on track. Nice to see all

[okrocks] bluwolf wow good to see you

[mkay] bluwolf I am glad you said that


[LadyBlueKnight] bluwolf Just the usual lol

[mbillions] bluwolf Yes sir... Date and rate please roflmao


[Remi8] bluwolf Good answer!!!!

[okrocks] bluwolf yes do you think the financial cliff will be taken care of with the rv?


[keiji] bluwolf Hi, do you think there's any chance the VND will go before the dinar?

[bluwolf] keiji NO

[okrocks] bluwolf ty yes I agree just better do it soon before the world does a nose dive lol
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SSO_Scooby] well got a news blurb on My phone is any one interested??

[Mitzi] SSO_Scooby yes please

[the shadow] Sso_scooby yes

[SSO_Scooby] Kuwait is dropping the law suit agaist the iraqi airways

[jamajacks] SSO_Scooby That is major!TY

[sammyb] SSO_Scooby ok, explain what that means.... is this big or no affect on anything

[SSO_Scooby] and the UN ban kin moon says to kuwait hails kuwait for this action

[SSO_Scooby] sammyb ...that one action that holding iraq under this ch 7 with kuwait this is good news

[Mitzi] SSO_Scooby thank you, that does sound hopeful

SSO_Scooby] well 1 of the resons

[sammyb] SSO_Scooby great, thanks for explaining

[Sparkles] SSO_Scooby That is encouraging

[jamajacks] This was one of the last major road blocks to the release of Chapter 7. That is huge!

[Texas Mama] SSO_Scooby thank hun!!! Good news! :okie:

[SSO_Scooby] jamajacks ur saying I just brought some small good news lol

[Mitzi] SSO_Scooby I heard they cannot release Chap 7 without an RV, I am I right?
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Iraq demands using oil as a weapon against Washington and Tel Aviv and back after hours
Saturday, November 17 2012 08:14

Twilight News : student Permanent Representative of Iraq to the Arab League, using oil as a weapon to pressure the United States and other countries to intervene to stop the Israeli attacks on the Gaza Strip, but retracted his comments later.

And held the Arab foreign ministers held an emergency meeting on Gaza today.

Qais al-Azzawi said at a news conference in Cairo that "Iraq will call before the ministerial meeting to use oil as a weapon in order to form a real pressure on the United States of America and to stand with Israel (from other countries)."
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Iraq to witness surplus in power production in next summer, says Aftan
Saturday, 17 November 2012 16:48

Baghdad (AIN) : The Minister of Electricity, Karim Aftan, stressed that many stations for electric power will join the service with excess energy in next summer.

During a ceremony of inaugurating the second Hilla Gas power station in Babel, Aftan said that "A number of power stations will be inaugurated during the next summer such as Khairat, Quds, Wasit, Mansouriya, Rumela, Uqaz, and Dazergan stations where the total production of power will be 13,000 megawatts."

It is worth mentioning that Babel province witnessed, on Saturday, the ceremony of inaugurating Hilla Gas Power Station in presence of the Prime Minister, Nouri al-Maliki, Aftan, and the Deputy PM, Hussein al-Shahristani, besides other officials in the province.
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Source: Biden advised Maliki revised the route to deal with Bashar al-Assad
2012-11-17 13:14:00

BAGHDAD (Iba) : intensify the administration of U.S. President Barack Obama of political movements and contacts as part of exerting pressure on the government of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to discourage them from continuing to provide diplomatic and financial support and military support to the regime of Bashar al-Assad, who faces a popular uprising raging since March 2011.

Although Washington's efforts have not succeeded so far in changing the view of Baghdad from the current events in its western neighbor because of Iran's influence strongest, but it put Iraqi leaders before an impossible position, especially that the two sides are still Aaulan on the strategic agreement concluded prior to the withdrawal of U.S. troops end last year, which provides the U.S. presence in Iraq.

U.S. pressures focuses on preventing Iranian arms crossing over Iraqi airspace and land and reduce cross insurgents and militias loyal to the Assad regime and control of the border between the two countries to prevent the entry of extremists fighters in addition to the importance not to render aid to Assad in various fields.
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Maliki in a meeting with Jaafari: Article 140 dream difficult to achieve
Saturday 17/11/2012 01:14 pm

BAGHDAD - Alaa Mousa: Swarm close to the leader of the National Alliance Ibrahim al-Jaafari, some of which took place in the meeting, which gathered recently to Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki,

A source close to the secretary-Jaafari in an exclusive interview that Jaafari, Maliki's request the implementation of the promises that had previously approved in a reference to the Convention on Arbil,

He added that the Prime Minister regarded the implementation of Article 140 and private areas withheld is elusive Kurdish It is like a dream, and described the declaration of a Kurdish state "dream".

Deputy for Law: Shabibi provides compelling evidence that proves his innocence and integrity of the central bank
11/17/2012 2:26 pm

The MP said the coalition of state law Jabbar Freih Kanani, that the central bank is one of the ancient and important institutions in the country, but the issue of the integrity and impartiality of this institution entrusted to the judiciary and no one can claim that this circuit only fair or not the judiciary.

He Kanani told the "integrity of electronic" "The issue of a link Central Bank government issue articulated on the basis that the Council of Ministers is on drawing financial and economic policies of the country and the issue of the independence of the central bank is independent relative, not absolute, because if he had the independence absolute Whereas the government is obliged to provide special programs The demarcation of the fiscal policies of the Central Bank.
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U.S. investors expect the rise in the value of the Iraqi dinar to $ 3
Saturday, November 17, 2012 11:12

Translation / Baghdadiya News : Reuters reported that thousands of people in the United States still expect a surge in Iraqi dinar and who was described as one of the largest investment opportunities in the world.

He says one of speculators in Las Vegas that "the escalation of the Iraqi currency does not need to question, but Iraq when will restore raise the value of its currency, it will be the Iraqi dinar in the end a great value probably would be the highest in the world so that the dinar if rose a penny will be valuable profit 900 percent."
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Maliki opens Hilla gas station and approves the appointment of 1,500 people of the province
Saturday, November 17, 2012 16:17

BAGHDAD / Baghdadiya News : Opened by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki on Saturday, the second gas station Hilla cost / / 84 million dollars in the presence of the Minister of Electricity Karim Aftan and governor of Babylon Mohamed Messaoudi and police chief of Babel.

The source said in a statement / Baghdadiya News /, "The prime minister opened the plant gaseous second Babylon presence of the Minister of Electricity officials locally in the province," adding that "station Hilla gas will supply the province card / 250 / megawatt terms contain two units Tolidetyn of type / GE / U.S. card / / 125 MW each one. "
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Iraq preferably two CNBC and Locke Will Exxon Mobil's share bids
Saturday, November 17, 2012 16:42

Translation / Baghdadiya News : Reuters reported a statement by a senior official in the Iraqi Oil Ministry in that my company would prefer CNBC Chinese and Russian Lukoil if they decided to buy Exxon Mobil's share in the West Qurna field, the first giant.

The endowment statement, which translated / Baghdadiya News / In "would sell a stake Exxon Mobil to strengthen significantly the position of Russia and China in the exploitation of Iraq's oil reserves, which is the fourth-largest reserves in the world. Official added that" During separate meetings with executives from companies CNN me CNN and Lukoil Iraq informed the two companies that prefer their contribution to the purchase of Exxon Mobil's share in the first West Qurna. "

Suhail: the importance of diagnosing the perpetrators of economic crimes and punishment
Saturday, November 17, 2012 17:51

BAGHDAD / Baghdadiya News : Stressed, first deputy head of the House of Representatives Qusay al-Suhail, Saturday, on the importance of tracking the perpetrators of economic crimes and take measures to punish them in order to keep the Iraqi economy.

According to a statement issued by the Office of the Vice President of the House of Representatives received / Baghdadi News / copy of it, that "Suhail visited the Directorate to combat economic crime, accompanied by senior agent of the Ministry of the Interior Adnan al-Asadi and Altfy its Director Brigadier Hussein Al Shammari."
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[xyz] CBI Boss Calls For Reform Of Offshore Tax - NOT 'iraq central bank'! gotcha thud

[xyz] Hundreds of workers protested in Tahrir Square in central Baghdad this morning, to demand their rights and prosecute corrupt officials . "The goal of the demonstration is to eliminate corruption , prosecute corrupt officials , approval of the Unified Retirement Law, and enactment of the new social security system".

[noway37] OK.. i got some dinar's about 4 years ago and have got more though the years from "Safe Dinar" this morning i get a email from them. asking me to sign up for emails from exchange rate.. just found that weird..

[noway37] guess my question is.. has anyone else gotten this email that got some of their dinar from them..

[JstBringIt] noway37 hmmm, I have bought from SD as well. No email here yet......

[noway37] JstBringIt just found it wierd cause i havent got any from them for a few months.. but i am a member on their site and have got a few from them.. just seems with the timing a bit strange

[sandytob] noway37 what did the email say?

[JstBringIt] noway37 I haven't bought from them in probably 6 months or so....bought some from sterling and tampa as well to make sure I had accounts and were on email lists for all

[noway37] sandytob its said.... You are receiving this because you have created an account or previously made an order on We are now offering an exchange rate alert notification and a newsletter that we'll send out to you periodically to update you on relevant news and exciting new promotions.
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The below posts were in our 11am email


cdjsilver51 what's up mailman?  any news to report or opinions?

mailman17 just looking  been watching you guys for a couple weeks now..<) same as my last chat...jan 1
cdjsilver51 not fair

mailman17 lol  forum running very smooth
calldinar Sounds Good to me..
cdjsilver51 we're always wondering where you are and whether or not you'll talk to us

mailman17 always here....just watching i love talking...but nothing to really update ya
cdjsilver51 Med calles that Miming

mailman17 my key as it was before will be shabs
mailman17  yes...yooper miming
cdjsilver51  what if shabs never comes back    I mean, would you?

mailman17 i dont think its so much as if he comes back to assume the cbi role as it is what he brings with him  i still say...him not breaking a sweat and staying outside iraq is a very good move
cdjsilver51 hopefully some bodyguards

mailman17 and i think it also makes maliki think twice  HE MAY NOT EVEN COME BACK  BUT ITS WHAT HE WILL PRESENT IS WHAT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING    REMEMBER


This is a Kaperoni opinion from yesterday:
11-15-12 Kaperoni: Tariffs are directly related to the exchange rate as the WTO to the Tariffs. One goes with another. So if they hold this new target date, we should see the rate rise well before June. Now is good.

DEBORAH LAYNE:  I'd like to add my two cents to this if I may. No offense to Kaperoni, but I believe his thinking is a bit too black and white in this matter.

There is nothing from the GOI that I'm aware of that says "we won't apply the tariff laws until our poor blessed people have the money to pay them but we're not going to revalue the currency until we're ready to apply them", although I think it's safe to conclude they won't apply them until the people CAN pay. If there is something written to that effect, somebody please let me know so I can retract this.


So I was doing the usual reading today and noticed the michigander statement about Iraq's rank with the World Bank and it piqued me to do some background on some other statistics. I found on the World Bank's site comparisons on Iraq's economy in 2012 to projections for 2013. Interestingly enough, you'll see most all the projections showed a mostly downward to stalled PROJECTION trend. So let's look at the numbers:
Iraq 2013 2012

Starting a business 177 177 there were 1,943 new LLC's started in Iraq in 2011. At approximately 74 days per to start and costing 25.2% paid-in minimum capital (The amount that the entrepreneur needs to deposit in a bank or with a notary before registration and up to 3 months following incorporation and is recorded as a percentage of the economy's income per capita.)

Dealing with Construction permits 84 80 187 days. The total number of days required to build a warehouse. The measure captures the median duration that local experts indicate is necessary to complete a procedure in practice.


[healthscans] Capt Ron so are we still looking this month?

[Capt Ron] healthscans, I see the two usual camps out there in Dinarland......

 [Capt Ron] camp thinks they have inside knowledge of the finance world d they say the rv is very close.....

 [Capt Ron] ....the other camp thinks that we may have to wait a month or so, waiting on the larger political process in the m.e.

[Plowboy] Question: what's the relationship btwn the UST notes and the RV? I must have missed that somewhere along the line

[hub] Plowboy i dont know.........................

[AuntieTeeTee] Plowboy ... actually there is NO connection.

[Plowboy] Auntie Tee Tee strange Precious and others make much of it

[hub] Plowboy i think some people think that the ust notes will come out under the asset based currency and the rv will happen to back up some of the currency by providing a vehicle to obtain the assets

[Plowboy] Hub thanks. I can't say as I really understand that though

[hub] Plowboy the rv will provide countries a way to obtain assets, oil production, gold, mineral production, all these cost money to obtain, and the rv will provide the money, and the ust notes are to be asset based


[okrocks] I honesty believe there are things happening we are not aware of and those things could make some things happen very soon so do not give up your hope!

[Precious] Just got back from Wells Fargo....the oficer there told me she expecs the UST notes by the first week n December

 [Expendable3] Precious that was you that went to the WF?

 [Precious] Expendable3 ys a little ole me lol

[Expendable3] Precious Wow thx

 [Expendable3] Then it's true double wow

 [Bravo] Liberated Iraq calls on Arab states to use oil as 'weapon' against U.S. A top Iraqi diplomat urged Arab states to "use the weapon of oil" against the United States

 [goofy] cisco411 did you ever get confirmation of the new UST bills?

 [cisco411] goofy NOPE proved to be like O's stance on Isreal inconclusive

[goofy] cisco411 lol

 [redhead1] cisco411 - have you seen anything on the VND today?

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Allawi in Saudi Arabia to meet with the Director of intelligence and preparation for the upcoming elections
November 16 2012

Baghdad - Hisham Khalid: Saudi daily al-Watan revealed in its issue dated last Thursday that the leader of the Iraqi List, made an unannounced visit to Saudi Arabia, citing that he met the Saudi intelligence chief,

The newspaper said that Allawi discussed the latest political developments in Iraq with new intelligence chief Bandar bin Sultan,

The newspaper said the two sides reviewed a number of topics of common interest, pointing out that Sultan asked Allawi stressed the importance of activating the issue of Tariq al-Hashimi and mind oppressed the Iraqi List, also called for not to put a substitute for it to be brought back to the office,


in response to clashes in Tuz Khurmatu ... Maliki issued his orders to bring Kirkuk under the leadership of the Tigris
November 16 2012

A source close to the Office of the Commander in Chief of the armed forces that Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki issued an order whereby subdue the province of Kirkuk to the Tigris Operations Command.

The source said the commander in chief of the armed forces held an urgent meeting of senior leaders and advisers office to discuss the implications of the incident Tuz Khurmatu and actions to be taken, adding that Maliki is subjecting the province of Kirkuk, and all the security agencies deployed where including the Peshmerga forces to operations command Tigris, stressing that if it does not comply forces the province about it will be treated as a hostile power.

A security source said clashes on Friday between the driving forces of the Tigris and the Kurdistan Regional Guard "Peshmerga" in Kirkuk province which resulted in the martyrdom of one person and injuring 10 others.


Baghdad Broker Dodges Bombs to Rack Up Stock Trades
November 16 2012

it was exceptionally cold in Sulaymaniyah, a city in northern Iraq's Kurdish region, on the morning of Dec. 22. Shwan Taha was sitting in the airport lounge with a bag of gifts, waiting to get back to his wife and children at home in Istanbul.

Iraq Stock Exchange CEO Taha Ahmed Abdul Salam al-Rubaye surveys the trading floor. The market value of companies listed on the ISX has grown to $4.1 billion in 2011 from $3.1 billion in 2010 as the Iraqi economy expanded.

Just before boarding, he got a call on his mobile phone from Rabee Securities, the Baghdad-based brokerage he owns, Bloomberg Markets magazine reports in its December issue. The manager was on the line to report that a car bomb had exploded next door at the government anti-corruption agency.

Taha hung up. Fortunately, the last trading day of the year had been two days earlier, so none of Rabee's 16 employees were in the office. He tapped out an e-mail to Rabee's clients that said in part:


Oil Ministry: Iraq received the "signals Aaahabih" Lukoil Lucy... PVC
November 16 2012

A senior official said the Iraqi Oil Ministry, told Reuters that Iraq had received "positive signals" from the Chinese National Petroleum Company (CNN... PVC) and Russia's Lukoil that they Stdrsan ExxonMobil stake in the West Qurna oil field -1.

The official, who asked not to be named, "We have received positive signals from CNN... PVC and Lukoil that they would consider buying Exxon's share in the West Qurna-1."


In a strongly worded communication .. Biden owners: Talibnakm not launch Daqduq and you did the opposite and did not respect the blood of our sons
November 16 2012

Source revealed communication conducted this afternoon by U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki about the release of Lebanese Ali Daqduq accused of killing Americans in Iraq, noting dissatisfaction with the U.S. administration to launch.

The source, who declined to be named, said Biden made contact surprise Maliki expressing disappointment and displeasure personally release Daqduq, which Washington accuses of killing Americans in Iraq, adding that Biden was a stern and transfer point of view the U.S. administration, which he decision by the Iraqi government to waive them in the non-implementation of their demand not at all and it did not respect the blood of their sons who were killed in Iraq at the hands of Daqduq.

He said al-Maliki tried to justify it and throw the ball in the court of the Iraqi judiciary who did not find it seemed to keep Daqduq where no proven guilty and must be released.


Banker: the need to develop (telephone banks) to facilitate the work of the banking
16/11/2012 11:52:29 Friday

Baghdad (news) : Called banking expert Mohsen Ali, the need to develop a way (banks telephone) to facilitate banking transactions, stressing the importance of developing awareness programs banking by monetary policy to the citizen for his guidance in how to deal with techniques banking business.

said Ali (Agency news) on Friday : The Iraqi banks today two branches of public and private face difficulties in how to deal with citizens being unaware of a lot of things that pertain to banking Kalscoc savings and withdraw money, etc., as a result of lack of awareness banking in Iraq.


Minister of planning [where]: five-year plan will Cabinet and Parliament end of 2012
Friday, 16 November 2012 18: 16

Karbala: Avinash's planning Minister said his Ministry will draft five-year plan for the years to come to the Council of Ministers and Parliament by the end of the year 2012.

Each agency correspondent Iraq [where]Planning Minister said during a visit to Karbala"The Ministry of planning the five-year plan will Cabinet and House of representatives before the 30th of the month of December of the year 2012.


Banker: the need to develop (telephone banks) to facilitate the work of the banking
16/11/2012 11:52:29 Friday

Baghdad (news) : Banking expert called Mohsen Ali, to the need to develop a way (telephone banks) to facilitate banking transactions, stressing the importance of awareness programs by the banking monetary policy to the citizen for his guidance in how to deal with banking techniques.

Ali (Agency news) Friday: The Iraqi banks today two branches of public and private face difficulties in how to deal with citizens being unaware of a lot of things that pertain to banking Kalscoc savings and withdraw money, etc., as a result of lack of awareness banking in Iraq.


Abtan: draft law payment on credit are ready to vote and will be presented to Parliament during these days

Baghdad : where member stressed the Economic Commission in Parliament MP for mass citizen Abdul-Hussein Abtan The draft bill payment on credit are ready to vote and will be displayed in Parliament during these days.

said Abtan told all of Iraq [where] today that "the law of payment on credit was added Notes when mentioned by deputies of the National Coalition and the Kurdistan Alliance and the Iraqi List, which notes a real technical and professional order not to waste the money order dispensing properly in line with the law. " and added that "the draft law payment on credit ready to vote but are waiting for the coming days to be shown the parliament. "


Bill the mandate of the three presidencies portends in fueling conflicts within the parliament
Friday, 16 November 2012 12:34

Baghdad Ambassador: News: With the approach put forward a draft law of the mandate of the three presidencies in Iraq on the agenda of the parliament, political parties began gearing up for a legal showdown, and a new constitutional.

The Parliamentary Legal Committee last week approved the draft law of the mandate of the three heads of two sessions Antkhabtin, amid strong opposition from the bloc �rule of law�, led by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, which has threatened to resort to the judiciary �to challenge the constitutionality of the law.

And pre-empted the parliament speaker Osama al-Nujaifi the first reading of the law announced yesterday that the legislative authority has the right to propose laws and criticized the position of President Jalal Talabani contradictory decision of the Federal Court judge assigning the task to propose laws to the Government.

A statement Nujaifi that restrict the House of Representatives to vote for its executive authority of bills flawed wall constitutional authority and turn him into a continued executive authority as an advisory body, vote is alone does not represent the legislative power are real, and therefore refuse to turn the people's authority represented in the House of Representatives to group of voters.

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