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BGG Sunday Night News Time 12-4-16  Part 3 of 3

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BGG Sunday Night News Time 12-4-16  Part 3 of 3
MadDScout says():I have one from the Saturday Anti Money Laundering conference
 
BGG says to MadDScout():Go man!!
 
MadDScout says):Unless you want to ask for ??'s
 
BGG says to MadDScout():I'm tired just watching you!!  Yeeee hawwww!!
 
MadDScout says():He underscored his commitment to combating money Alomwal..antrza warns banks of channels "terrorist financing"
 
05/12/2016 (0:01 pm) - The number of readings: 55  Baghdad / long - Presse   It confirmed the central bank's board, the commitment of the banking institutions in Iraq's laws and regulations on anti-money laundering crimes, and warned of the repercussions of non-compliance with such legislation and risks to create channels for the financing of terrorism, while the Iraqi private banks association pointed out that some of the statements of politicians is "responsible" triggered off the handle a large European banks with Iraq.
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BGG Sunday Night News Time 12-4-16  Part 2 of 3

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BGG Sunday Night News Time 12-4-16  Part 2 of 3
MadDScout says():Restructuring of the secretariat of the Council of Ministers re-Abadi, and the call to the Indictment Division
 
Read More : http://www.dinarupdates.com/showthread.php?44163-Restructuring-of-the-secretariat-of-the-Council-of-Ministers-re-Abadi-and-the-call-t&p=166072#post166072
 
Baghdad / Wael blessing    He returned the government's recent decision to restructure the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers, to talk again about the dominance of the call and the State of Law Party, the independent bodies, and most sensitive government sites.
 
Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi is accused by his allies in the National Alliance, that he had failed, since the two years of his reign, ending a proxy appointments for about 8 thousand important government site between the director general and Deputy Minister and adviser.
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BGG Sunday Night News Time 12-4-16  Part 1 of 3

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BGG Sunday Night News Time 12-4-16 Part 1 of 3
BGG says():Hey gang - how is everyone??
daytrader says to BGG(Wow. Active group tonite!
 
jimplants says():i realize iraq will get around to it just when is the 3.50 dollar queston
 
BGG says to daytrader():That's more like it... I started sweating as soon as I read your AZ comment.

BGG says to daytrader():UGH.
BGG says to daytrader():ICKY
 
daytrader says to BGG():Been on too many vacations there. Not going there except to pass through or a golf tourney.
 
jimplants says():maui would be nice but you will get island fever

aminmaine252297875331 says():i will risk that for a while!
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More News, Rumors and Opinions Monday Night 12-5-16

TNT:

OKRocks:  in reading between the lines the budget was approved... ovbviously the IMF got what they wanted

RVAlready:  okrocks - what makes you sure the IMF got what they wanted?

OKRocks: rvalready Because their review was a good one and they gave the next installment of the loan
RVAlready:    I don't know if I can read between the lines on the budget, but the IMF report looks pretty positive.... It just doesn't say, "and all you guys in the US are going to the bank real soon now." But it says just about everything else.
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Dinar Updates Sunday Late PM Chat  12-4-16   Part 2 of 2

12/5/2016
 
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Dinar Updates Sunday Late PM Chat  12-4-16   Part 2 of 2

loop says():Central bank: we have stopped hundreds of companies after the discovery of corruption
 
Last update: Sunday, December 4, 2016 - 9:46
 
CBI administration has warned of the repercussions of non-compliance with the legislation of laws and regulations to combat money and risks in creating channels for laundering financing of terrorism offenses.
 
He said the central bank governor on the Keywords, during a press conference on the sidelines of the Forum of compliance and anti-money laundering and terrorism financing in Iraqi banks and financial institutions, that "Iraq's banking and financial institutions, compliance with anti-money laundering and financing of terrorism."
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Dinar Updates Sunday Late PM Chat  12-4-16   Part 1 of 2

 
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Dinar Updates Sunday Late PM Chat  12-4-16   Part 1 of 2
 
loop says():Saleh: some economic laws hastily prepared
 
5/12/2016 0:00 Institute seminar in the progress of the development policies
 
BAGHDAD / Shokran Fatlawi   Diagnosis of the reality of the local market and the negative effects of which had been affected as a result of ill-considered decisions and the reasons for the decline in the economic development of Iraq and laid on the table of the Institute for the progress of the development policies, where the serial episode organized yesterday titled "US policy in Iraq connotations and expectations "
 
Economic laws Director of the Institute d. Mehdi al - Hafez and former Secretary of Planning began symposium word about stations should stop with her in the path of the US - Iraqi relations since 2003 and the changes that have occurred in the process of building a new state ,
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Dinar Updates Sunday Early PM Chat  12-4-16   Part 2 of 2

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Dinar Updates Sunday Early PM Chat  12-4-16   Part 2 of 2

jfd says():Did the budget pass or is it too early to tell ?
 
subgirl says to jfd():not sure if it is all done...
jfd says():Thanks
subgirl says to jfd():yw!!
 
loop says(3):Parliament fails to passage of the budget and to raise its tomorrow
 
Author: Editor: HH 12.04.2016 23:52 Number of Views: 30
 
Parliament fails to passage of the budget and to raise its tomorrow
 
magnetlady says():Hey subby
subgirl says to magnetlady():HEY :)
 
ol lar says to loop():Sooo did they pass most of the article and will finish a few more tomorrow?
 
Soonergirlie says():Loop, please fly over there and explain to them they need this done :@8-):D

subgirl says to Soonergirlie(): :D(y)
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Frank26 and KTFA Members Monday Afternoon 12-5-16

KTFA:

Don961:  IMO .... We know the 3 Letters have been guiding Iraq .... and inputting their requirements in the writing of the Budgets ....and other laws ....

With all the things Abadi and the GOI/CBI have done so far .... to facilitate those requirements to get the loans .... could it be the really important things that were needed from the 2017 Budget are agreed to ?.... and all these articles that are being disputed are things that could be amended or tweaked at a later time ...
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Because of absentee MPs .... disagreements may seem magnified because of the few that are present ... and the need for a quorum ..... so they may be taking advantage of that fact to threaten the process ... whereas if all MPs were there , the budget could pass easier ....

The IMF is fully aware of the intention and probability of what needs to be done with the 2017 Budget .... we'll see what is said today ... and hear on the CC what's up .... but the Budget being passed may not even be an issue at this point ... for the continuation of the New Monetary Policy of Iraq ...  
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AdminBill Update at WSOMN Monday Morning 12-5-16

WSOMN:

ADMINBILL:  MONDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2016 (0900 MT)

HERE WE ARE TODAY WITH NO MONEY IN OUR ACCOUNTS. BUT TO BE HONEST I DID NOT EXPECT TO SEE PUBLIC FUNDING FOR THE EXCHANGE OF ANY CURRENCY OVER THE WEEKEND.

I PASS ON WHAT I AM HEARING WHICH, IN TURN, IS WHAT MY SOURCES ARE HEARING FROM THEIR SOURCES AND SO ON UP THE FOOD CHAIN. HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS THAT MAY BE DEPENDS ON THE SOURCE.

SEVERAL ARE IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH THOSE IN BANKING, FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT THAT ARE PUSHING HARD TO GET THIS DONE.
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Mnt Goat Monday Dec. 5th News Brief

Thank you George for emailing this to Dinar Recaps.

December 5, 2016 Mnt Goat News Brief
 
Hi Everyone,

So today is Monday and what does this current news bring us? Is the budget then settled? What was the end result over the weekend?    
 
Update from Saturday Dec 3, 2016- Vice Chairman of the Finance Committee Faleh applicable: - The delay in the vote on the budget for 2017, the differences on the ratio of the population and export of oil and the benefits of Basra province. (I want everyone to note that this is why they need to do a complete and accurate "official" and "nonpartial" census of the population. So this tells us this is not yet completed and this created issues. Basra was asking for an additional $5 per barrel of oil besides their share of the 17%)
 
The House of Representatives has said they postponed a vote on the budget in 2017 until Sunday 12/4. So did they vote?

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News, Rumors and Opinions Monday Morning 12-5-16

 
TNT:

OkRocks:  Urgent Parliament postpones its meeting until next Wednesday -Why? Because Kurdish lawmaker reveals a new proposal for the allocation of the Peshmerga .... Does this effect the IMF meeting or the rv? I dont think so because their finances are in order...... Perhaps its just a "roadmap" for timing? ;)

Blessed2:  I believe that the Iraqi RV process will be very similar to the Iranian process and that is no major public announcement will be made. We have seen budgets being passed over the years without the RV being attached to it. I believe the activation of the Iraqi RV is not incumbent upon the budget being passed..... ...the evidence of things not seen. That's why I believe the RV will not be a public announcement.

Lilypad : The budget had to be passed as one of the criteria set by the IMF for the needed loans that the budget is built on for 2017.
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Dr. Clarke Followup Q&A Post-Part 5, Posted Mon. Dec. 5th

 
( Links for Dr. Clarke's earlier Part 1 or Part 2 or Part 3 or Part 4 Q&A posts.)

TomTom73   12/4/2016 07:45:44 pm  
Dr. Clarke:  Now I know you have been posting on the DC for quite a while now but I am really curious about why you never spoke out about the Zim currency being worthless before.

Surely you noticed all the other Gurus posting about the Zim being a good buy but now you step forward and call it worthless as a Bond or a currency.

Also I would like to know your position on the Wells Fargo verses HSBC being the lead bank in the RV process... If you can find some time, please respond. Inquiring minds would like to know.

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The below posts were in our 10am Newsletter

Dinar Updates Sunday AM Chat  12-4-16   Part 3 of 3

loop says():Jubouri: Astmhal session half an hour until the budget is completed Print
 
Sunday 04-12-2016 | 7:12:05   30/11/2016
Twilight News / announced Iraqi parliament speaker Salim al Sunday evening that the parliament to expect a great complete reprint of the financial budget for 2017, which takes 30 minutes.
 
It decided Jubouri Astmhal half-hour session while printing budget is completed, according to a parliamentary source useful for Twilight News.
 
loop says():Parliament lifted vote on the budget a half-hour session
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Dinar Updates Sunday AM Chat  12-4-16   Part 2 of 3

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Dinar Updates Sunday AM Chat  12-4-16   Part 2 of 3

Elane says():(*) 9 am EST .... The time "17:00" Iraq is witnessing the vote on the budget in 2017
 
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ar&tl=en&u=http://www.alsharqiaa.com/index.php%3Fpage%3Darticle%26id%3D17630
 
tarheeltim says():I read that the vote was postponed
 
Elane says():It was from earlier their morning ... to tonight
Elane says():Just pray
Elane says():Iraq wil not fail!
 
tarheeltim says():Parliament postpones held its sixth hour and three blocks refuses to vote on the budget
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Dinar Updates Sunday AM Chat  12-4-16   Part 1 of 3

loop says(7:54 AM):Parliament postpones vote on the budget to the sixth session this evening
 
Sunday 04-12-2016 | 4:42:03  Parliament postpones vote on the budget to the sixth session this evening
 
jfd says(7:58 AM):How many sessions do they have in one day?
 
loop says():Iraqi whaling fleet seems to have found more whales.
 
loop says():The central bank freeze Iraqi funds and Libby
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Bits and Pieces in Dinarland Sunday Night 12-4-16

 
WSOMN:

SandnSea:  New Zealand PM just resigned BBC

Wizofog14:  Are dominos starting to fall

RaginCajun:  WIZ, YES THEY ARE

SandnSea:  http://bit.ly/2g9afBt Citing Family reasons in New Zealand

StillOkRocks:  John Key has announced that he will resign as prime minister of New Zealand, after eight years in the job. Mr Key called it "the hardest decision I've ever made," Mr Key is stepping down at the request of his wife Bronagh, the New Zealand Herald reports.
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"Italy On The Brink: Could Spark Euro Economic Apocalypse"

Notes From The Field  By Simon Black

December 2, 2016    Denver, Colorado, USA

Here's a completely different idea about Sunday's "apocalypse"

  The latest apocalypse du jour, following in the footsteps of Brexit and the Donald Trump election, is Italy's Constitutional referendum that takes place this weekend.
 
Global financial media is in a panic about this, suggesting that a "NO" vote will lead to total chaos in Europe.
 
The referendum itself isn't particularly revolutionary; Italians are voting whether or not to change the Constitution and reform their government.
 
Right now Italy's legislative system is fairly inefficient.
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Dinar Updates Saturday Late PM Chat  12-3-16   Part 2 of 2

 
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loop says():Central Bank oppose the establishment of a joint charge of foreign trade transfers
 
04/12/2016 (00:01 pm)  Baghdad / peace Zidane    Called for a number of specialists in the banking regard to the establishment of a joint bank between the public and private sectors to finance the foreign trade of the private sector and the abolition of the currency auction, 

while the rejection by the Board of the Central Bank, Majid picture, the establishment of this bank because the problem in foreign remittances as a result of a lack of confidence among domestic and foreign banks .
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Dinar Updates Saturday Late PM Chat  12-3-16   Part 1 of 2


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larrykn says():I see this place if lively tonight lol
 
loop says():Iraq is starting a fishing industry. They are going into competition with the Japan whaling fleet. In fact they caught their first whale in Madrid.
 
loop says():The overthrow of one of the "whales corruption" Iraqis in Madrid embezzled $ 112 million from Bank of Commerce
 
Saturday 03-12-2016 | 7:59:07   Twilight News / announced that the Iraqi Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Spanish police arrested in coordination with the so-called (Ali Hassoun ATM) accused of embezzling funds from the Trade Bank of Iraq (TBI).
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"Italy PM Renzi Resigns After Clear Referendum Defeat" 

 
WSOMN:

NWMontana: Italy referendum: PM Matteo Renzi resigns after clear referendum defeat

Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi has resigned after suffering a heavy defeat in a referendum over his plan to reform the constitution.
 
In a late-night statement, he said he took responsibility for the outcome. He said the No camp must now make clear proposals.
 
An exit poll for state broadcaster RAI suggests 42-46% voted to back reform, compared with 54-58% voting No.
 
The first projections based on the official count point to a wider defeat.
 
Early indications have the Yes vote at 39-43% and the No at 57-61%.

The referendum was regarded as a barometer of anti-establishment sentiment in Europe.
 
The vote asked about plans to streamline parliament but it was widely seen as a chance to register discontent with the prime minister.
 
Populist parties supported a No vote.
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More News, Rumors and Opinions Early Sunday Evening 12-4-16

TNT:

Lilypad:   It appears that they actually completed voting but are coming back Monday 1pm to tie up loose ends.... since they got to article 50 for voting and were taking the sequentially, it is my assumption they did vote on the articles--breaking for the night--will meet in the back room tomorrow to finalize discrepancies and convene full parliament at 1pm.

This is all in my opinion as I cannot find that in print. I am sure they are tired at midnight.

RVAlready:  Looks like one short meeting tomorrow to sign budget, then RV the currency, then IMF meeting! Then we go to the bank before the end of the month (or maybe the end of the week).

Rojo:  The UN still has to grant Iraq authorirty to trade international before we see RV

RVAlready:  I think the UN is ready to do that.... The UN has been pushing this for months.

AJTexas:  If their budget is based on the RI rate of 1 to 1, 80 trillion dinar should get the job done. At the program rate no way!
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