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Wise Words - "TRUTH & ERROR"
Generals64 from MIG Chat Thurs. Morning
Dinar Wishes from 3sintel Chat Thurs. AM
Large Solar Storm Hitting Earth Today from CBS News
ArizonaHeat 3S's Intel Chat - Post By Leo G.E.T. Forum
Bulldog75 post in OOM chat late Wed night
Jonny 3S's Intel Chat Update
Okie Oil Man posted in OOM chat Wed evening
Jonny 3S's Intel Chat Update
The below posts were in our 10pm email
Synopsis of Future Bank Packages From DebTarheelgirl Wed. Evening
Cap1 Chat at Cap1corner Wed. Evening
The RV Process: First "Get Ready" Then "Go" - Post By Historian G.E.T. forum
BGG / A.Q & Poppy Chat - Post By Newmonies Dinar Updates
Angel Quest Chat - Post By Newmonies Dinar Updates
Okie Oil Man in OOM chat Wed evening
The Big Call Wed. Night
Cap1 chat at Cap1Corner Wed. Evening
Tidbits from Dinar Sites Wed. Afternoon
Bulldog75 posted at OOM chat Wed afternoon
The below posts were in our 6pm email
Jonnywg in chat at 3S's Wed afternoon
Soonerfan 3S's Intel Chat Update
Bulldog75 From OOM Chat Wed. Afternoon
Adam Montana Q & A - Post By KCW DinarVets
Bluwolf from 3sintel Chat Wed. Afternoon
More Dinarwishes and BellaGrits from 3sintel chat Wed. Afternoon
DinarWishes posted in 3S's forum by AndieZ1 Wed morning
Hammerman call tonight at 8PM CST...HAMMERMAN
Arizona Heat at 3sintel Chat Wed. Morning
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False doctrine does not  necessarily make the man a heretic, but an evil heart  can  make any doctrine heretical -- Coleridge

There will be  mistakes in divinity when men  preach;  and errors  in government when  men  govern -- Dudley Carleton

Whatever is only almost true is quite false; and among the most dangerous of errors, because being so near truth, it is the more  likely to lead astray -- Precise knowledge is the only true knowledge, and  he who does not teach exactly, does  not teach at  all --  H W Beecher

The least error should humble, but we should never permit even the greatest to discourage us -- Potter

A man should never be ashamed to own he has been in the wrong, which is but saying, in  other words, that he is wiser today than he was yesterday -- Pope

It is only an  error of judgment to make a mistake, but it argues an infirmity of character to adhere to it when discovered -- The Chinese say, "The glory is not in never falling, but in the rising every time you fall"  Bovee

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Generals64 from MIG Chat Thurs. Morning
[generals64] Please read this my friends:.....I am NOT whining, pouting,kicking 
the dirt or crying. Last night someone hacked my screen name to jimmydnar...was 
not me..CCF had to change it ...he was confused how it happened also....Next had a run in with two guys Secret Agent12 and whoever...can't remmebr....got off the site....

Now, My entire computer stuff has been removed...Completely...Sources, 
names, emails etc.....This is not James Bond stuff about the Dinar....Be careful....Be careful of what you listen to and to whom you listen to....Not only did they take the dinar stuff and my nightly source emails....they took my 
business information.....It's not worth it to me guys/gals.....I have NEVER talked personally with BULLY!BULLY!.....WE on this site must be on to something 
for the fools to come after us/me wouldn't you think?

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Dinar Wishes from 3sintel Chat Thurs. AM
DinarWishes] Please let me exsplain how this works... when it is released to the banks it will go to the main branch at that bank and then will be distributed to the 
lower levels... once all the banks send conformation of having the rates and 
they are finished loading in their systems they send a signal back to the central bank.... well all I can say is there are alot of banks in the world...

DinarWishes] DaisyMay from what I understand once the banks have it they can hold it for up to 24 hours just to make sure its stable

DinarWishes] I was told a rate but Im not sure it is what will be the final rate

DinarWishes] jc1958 Ive never said it would be instant... this is the biggest change to the worlds ecconomy in the history of the world... its not as simple as some may say...

DinarWishes] rosie16 I dont know if it can be stopped or not... but I know the banks havent finished nor do they have a rate posted at this time

[DinarWishes] Let me be clear... once it has been released it will go to the banks within seconds... then the banks will post to the other levels of the banks and the 
banks can hold it for a whole day and then let you cash in....

DinarWishes] cwg I had calls indicating it was in proccess but until I can cash out and get notification from DinarBanker I will not say we RVed

[DinarWishes] DigsIts not DONE till we cash out... I have had some good calls to indicate this isover but until I cash out Im not calling it done.... Jonny still may be
right... we will have to see what the banks updates come with...

[DinarWishes] Guys I am waiting just like the rest of you... I had 3 banks tell 
me they had rates here in the U.S. and one across the pond just waiting for the 
proccess to finish and the buy signal to be given....

[mamari4] DinarWishes when is the next bank update? 
[DinarWishes] mamari4 next major currency update is at 2pm CST 
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Large Solar Storm Hitting Earth Today from CBS News
More on the possibility of internet shutdown due to solar storms.
Alert from CBS News:
(CBS/AP) WASHINGTON - The largest solar storm in five years is racing toward Earth, threatening to unleash a torrent of charged particles that could disrupt power grids, GPS and airplane flights.

The sun erupted Tuesday evening, and the effects should start smacking Earth between 1 a.m. and 5 a.m. EST Thursday (3/8/12), according to forecasters at the federal government's Space Weather Prediction Center. They say the storm, which started with a massive solar flare, is growing as it speeds outward from the sun.

Video & More Text:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57392505/solar-storm-headed-toward-earth-may-disrupt-power/?tag=mncol;lst;2


ArizonaHeat 3S's Intel Chat - Post By Leo G.E.T. Forum
[7:08:41 AM][ArizonaHeat] twisted1967 here is the deal. I never claim a date, never. 

even if i had my best friend in the whole world tell me, "i know its going down" i would never pass that on. 

I will wait for financial institutions to have a live rate, i will however, bring to the table what i feel is moving the RV forward, thats it. so if anyone is going to ever look for a date from me, im sorry that will never happen
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Bulldog75 post in OOM chat late Wed night
Bulldog75 11:22PM CST: LADIES & GENTS: IF THERE IS ANY TYPE OF COMMUNICATION PROBLEMS WITH OOM OR THIS CHAT SITE TOMORROW, THURSDAY, MARCH 8 DUE TO ALL THE EXCITEMENT,

WE WILL HAVE AN UPDATE CALL FOR ALL DINARIANS AT 1PM EST/12NOON 

CST TIL 2PM CST AT THIS PHONE #: 712-432-0900 X 198330#. 

THIS WOULD BE A MODERATED CALL. AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY IF THIS PARTICULAR OOM SITE IS DOWN FOR ANY REASON. IF WE ARE HERE AND FUNCTIONING THIS WILL BE 'NO CALL.' 

THIS # IS FOR AN EMERGENCY SITUATION ONLY IF OOM SITE GOES DOWN ON THURSDAY. THERE WOULD BE UPDATES AND INFORMATION FOR YOU ONLY AT THIS TIME NOTED HEREIN. THANKS.
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Jonny 3S's Intel Chat Update

 

11:45 PM [raven1111] 3sIntel 10:30 PM [.jonnywg] THERE ARE MORE CONFIRMATIONS OF THE EARLIER POSTS......

OTHER INTEL PROVIDERS HAVE ALSO RECEIVED THE INFO.... WE WAIT FOR THE RATES TO TRICKLE THROUGH THE SYSTEM......

NO NEWS ON A HIGH OR LOW RATE....... I EXPECT LOW AROUND $4 +-, THE MAIN THING IS WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL IT IS ALSO LIVE IN THE BANKS......

SO WE CAN CASHIN.....THE RATES WILL BE POSTED TONIGHT AND WE WAIT
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Okie Oil Man posted in OOM chat Wed evening
OKIEOILMAN:  GOOD EVENING AMERICA, SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR WORLD WIDE FRIENDS.--

ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO I LAST POSTED THAT I WAS SEEKING CONFIRMATION AND PROOF OF OUR BLESSING COMING TO FRUITION-----WELL---------I RECEIVED ABSOLUTE CONFIRMATION AND WE ARE ALL THRU EXCEPT OUR BANKING ARRANGEMENTS THAT WE WILL OR SHOULD BE ABLE TO TRANSACT TOMMOROW--

-EUROPE IS HAVING THE R/V PARTY AS I SPEAK--THIS OCCURED ACCORDING TO SOURCES ABOUT 4 HOURS AGO (YES AFTER BANKING HOURS) TO A LARGE GROUP OF INVESTORS--WE'RE NEXT!!!!!--

LET'S ALL STOP AND GIVE THANKS TO OUR FATHER FOR THE BLESSING THAT HAS ALREADY OCCURED AS REPORTED BY THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY CASHED IN---AND YES---THE RATE IS WHAT BULLDOG AND MYSELF HAS POSTED PREVIOUSLY---

IF THIS POST DON'T LIGHT YOUR FIRE----THEN YOUR WOOD'S GREEN-----CONGRATULATIONS MILLIONARES-----MY BEST WISHES AND PRAYERS ARE WITH EACH OF YOU AT THIS HISTORIC MOMENTUS TIME-----
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Jonny 3S's Intel Chat Update

 

9:46 PM [.jonnywg] as at 8pm est the rates are being processed as stated.................... we await the results

9:48 PM [.jonnywg] but slow down the excitement so that we can keep from cerashing............ there is no new intel to give.............. nothing more to talk about right now...............

10:02 PM [DinarWishes] OK peeps we are in the thick of it and the phones are going crazy so I will be back when we have more to report... I know Jonny will be in and out...
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The below posts were in our 10pm email
Synopsis of Future Bank Packages From DebTarheelgirl Wed. Evening
This synopsis is a REPOST which was prepared 3 weeks ago by DebTarHeelGirl after confirming info with Freeway Bill, then sent out to her group email recipients,and she has graciously allowed Dinar Recaps to post for all.

Details of these bank packages will be available AFTER the RV is Live and we are able to cash out- not before. 

There will be two bank packages available to you at the time of RV - 

DO NOT RUN OUT to cash out the very second you hear RV. 

These packages will be available 6-24 hours after RV announcement if not before, from Jonnywg and Freeway Bill. 

They have negotiated with the heads of Wells Fargo, Chase Bank and Bank of America for us to take these packages when we go cash in, if you choose a Bank over the Traders.
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Cap1 Chat at Cap1corner Wed. Evening

 

[Capt Crunch] Cap is this another fire drill or real deal?
CAP1] Capt Crunch -REAL DEAL.

CAP1] I'M TRYING TO FIND SOME BANKING INFORMATION FOR YOU SO 
HANG ON.
CAP1] GOT ANOTHER CONFIRMATION ABOUT THE RATE BEING LIVE AS 
WELL.

CAP1] It is suggested you cashout then go back to the bank and you can take this Perk Package list to your banker and say this is what I want or I move my money to a bank that will give it to me - MANY great things in this 
package to benefit us extremely and I am sure since it too was 
pre-negotiated we will have NO issues in getting all promised! 

CAP1] O.K. GETTHE DUCT TAPE OUT. YOU'RE GONNA NEED IT TO 
TAPE YOUR SOCKS UP! CAUSE THE RATE'SGONNA KNOCK EM OFF OTHERWISE!!!
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The RV Process: First "Get Ready" Then "Go" - Post By Historian G.E.T. forum
Historian - The RV Process: first get "Ready", then "Go" -  March 7, 2012  
  
I see that dinar world is about to go crazy with reports on an impending RV. The final steps to the RV are more complex than most realize. Based on what I've seen in other initiatives, here is a simple generic description of the usual process:

The Players

The folks involved in executing the RV have the job of getting all the physical stuff - IT systems, new rules, processes, organizing, training, etc. - in place across all participating organizations to be able to carry out the RV physically. 
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BGG / A.Q & Poppy Chat - Post By Newmonies Dinar Updates
8:31 AM [God's grace] Source: Najafi leader of the Iraqi list 05/03/2012 7:38 Baghdad / Orr News Revealed a source close to the coalition in Iraq for that there is a consensus within the list to take on Osama Najafi, a leader in the list and the current Chairman of the House of Representatives, its leadership instead of Iyad Allawi.
 
The source said that forty-eight hours the next announcement will Nujaifi the leader of the list officially. The source added that splits and dislocations evident in the performance of the Iraqi List, the political, behind the selection of Najafi, 

in addition to leaks about the dissatisfaction with the administration for Allawi, and nominated Nujaifi to be the next leader of the list, which goes to many observers, as they see that the leader of the future of the Iraqi list is Osama Najafi, and Allawi's failure in the management of his list.
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Angel Quest Chat - Post By Newmonies Dinar Updates
11:05 AM [A.Q] GOOD MORNING ALLL
11:05 AM [A.Q] CAME IN TO GIVE YOU A RUN DOWN OF MAJOR MEETINGS AND I DO NOT MEAN IRAQ

11:05 AM [A.Q] March 27-28- 2012 ~ WTO Seminar on Exchange Rates and Trade ... 27-28 March 2012 A seminar on the relationship between exchange rates and trade will take place at the WTO.
 
WTO members will exchange views on the impact on international trade of exchange rate volatility and misalignment. source Bumped ..from November 2011 ... [Smile] + Updated Conference Notice .. Related Events During March ..
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Okie Oil Man in OOM chat Wed evening
OKIEOILMAN:  GOOD EVENING AMERICA, SHIPS AT SEA AND ALL OUR WORLD WIDE FRIENDS. AT PRESENT I AM IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING CONFIRMATION AND ADDITIONAL INTEL REGARDING OUR BLESSING. INFORMATION FURNISHED LAST NIGHT IS BEING VERIFIED OR DE-BUNKED. IT LOOKS VERY POSITIVE AS OF THIS EXACT MOMENT IN TIME.

OKIEOILMAN:  I HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT OTHERS ARE POSTING-------I HAVE ENOUGH TROUBLE KEEPING UP WITH MY SOURCES MUCH LESS THAN SIT IN A CHAT ROOM CONSTANTLY-----I ONLY COME ON THIS SITE WHEN THERE ARE SOMETHING OF IMPORTANCE

OKIEOILMAN:  WE NEED TO ALL STAY GROUNDED-----THERE ARE NO R/V UNTIL YOU HAVE THE DEPOSIT SLIP IN YOUR HAND---THEN YOU CAN LOOSE BLADDER CONTROL
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The Big Call Wed. Night
Footforward is rumored to be on soon:

TheBigCallBrenda] Call (760) 569-7676 pin code:176323# Backup if main number is full: 209-647-1600 pin code: 213287# 2nd backup number is used only if the first backup is full: 209-647-1600 pin code: 617517#


Cap1 chat at Cap1Corner Wed. Evening

 

[..CAP1] O.K. MY SOURCES SAY THIS BABY IS ON THE WAY TOO. NOT ON TELLER SCREENS.......YET.

[..CAP1] IF I WERE BANKS , I WOULDN'T WANT THEM CASHING US OUT AT THIS HOUR ANYWAY! CAN'T YOU SEE THE MAYHEM!! LOL

[js] ..CAP1 so we are thinking after all banks are closed????
CAP1] js -THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING

CAP1] O.K. ,GOT TO RUN OUT FOR A LITTLE  WHILE. THINGS ARE POPPING. I SHOULD BE BACK IN BY  7:30 PM 
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Tidbits from Dinar Sites Wed. Afternoon
[..CAP1] NOW, JONNY IS STATING THAT HIS INFO IS CORRECT........MEANING THAT HE HAS TWO CONFIRMATIONS THAT IT HAS GONE LIVE. I BELIEVE HIM, FOR IT GOES WITH WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING WOULD HAPPEN TODAY. ACTUALLY THOUGHT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HERE THIS MORNING.

[shasta7] This news sounds great!!!! & I know everyone is excited &
not to pop anyones bubble - "BUT" lets just try to get 100% verification.... 
before we get too excited... kwim We know we have many people working on this... & as the OLD saying goes... until the cash is in the hand... it is only 
words...

[debtarheelgirl] *************** BROKERS WILL NOT stop selling - when the rate changes they will officially CHANGE THE RATE ONLY (that may take 15 mins to fix - site may go down a few) but will be selling right on as they are a currency broker 
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Bulldog75 posted at OOM chat Wed afternoon
Bulldog75:  4:34pm cst; OKIE/BULLDOG75 REPORT: UPDATE: MY GEAR IS DOWN, MY FLAPS ARE DOWN; AND I AM COMING IN FOR A LANDING.

Bulldog75: I CAN OFFICIALLY TELL YOU AS OF RIGHT NOW THE FRONT TELLER SCREENS HAVE NOT CHANGED FOR THE DONG AND IQD. NUFF SAID

Bulldog75:  THIS WILL GO VIRAL IN ONE MINUTE WHEN IT DOES RATE POST; ACROSS ALL THE CHAT BOARDS, BANK SITES, FRONT TELLER SCREENS. ONE WILL NOT HAVE TO GO LOOKING FOR IT. IT WILL COME TO U QUICK. ELEPHANTS CANNOT HIDE IN THE LIVING ROOM.

Bulldog75: WILDWES35: AND ALL: WE LET IT COME TO US. THE RATE CANNOT HIDE ON A LIVE FRONT TELLER'S SCREEN. PLEASE: DO NOT CALL THE BANKS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. THEY HAVE A TYPICAL PLANNED SPEECH. THANKS.
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The below posts were in our 6pm email
Jonnywg in chat at 3S's Wed afternoon
[.jonnywg] hi all we have just been informed by 2 creditable sources in different fields that the RV is live. the team is trying to verify it....... I have not got the rate but but it has just happened.....................we are on top of it and i am sure that this will confirm shortly

[.jonnywg] One of the sources was from BELLA GRITS..................

[.jonnywg] ACCORDING TO THIS REPORT WE HAVE RV'D

[.jonnywg] NO RATE AS YET

[.jonnywg] IF THIS IS IN ERROR WE WILL KNOW SHORTLY.......................AS STATED THIS INFO WAS FROM2 RELIABLE RESOURCES THAT ARE CONFIRMED

[.jonnywg] FYI THERE IS NO OPINION INVOLVED THIS FACTS RELEASED BY 2 CREDITABLE AGENCIES......... WE ARE WAITING TO GET THE POSTED RATES AND HAVE PEOPLE AT THE BANKS LOOKING FOR RATESRIGHT NOW
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Soonerfan 3S's Intel Chat Update
[bscman] [soonerfan62] Good Afternoon guys, just a drive by statement. Not coming on the boards has given us more time for us to search for facts about this RV. 

Let me just say, all is wonderful, chin up your blessing is soon. Do NOT think we are sitting on our butts, we never stop. Later Soonerfan62
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Bulldog75 From OOM Chat Wed. Afternoon
BULLDOG75Bulldog75: 2PM CST: RV: THIS IS A "MSNBC DOCUMENTARY U-TUBE VIDEO" ABOUT THE UST/CENTRAL BANKS & WORLD BANKING SYSTEM, WITH UPDATED CURRENT INFO. PLEASE WATCH ENTIRE VERSION WITH ENDING NARRATOR COMMENTS FOR FULL AFFECT. FILTER AND DECIDE FOR ONE SELF IF THIS HAS AFFECTED THE "RV". 

REMEMBER THE RESIGNATIONS, ARRESTS & RATS AND TIE THAT IN WITH THIS VIDEO. I AM THE MESSENGER. WAKE UP AMERICA. FOLLOW: MONEY, POWER, POLITICS. "MSNBC SPECIAL: Central Banking Racketeers (TPTB) and their fake Fiat Monetary System Exposed". 
THERE IS AN ADDITION TO THIS DOC. SEE THE WHOLE THING!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdupeH4H33g&feature=player_embedded  heisel: Mr bulldog sir what r we supposed to get from that? Looks like it was a older video that goes along with what has been said in last few weeks. How does that relate with most recent events. Last two or three days?  Bulldog75: HEISEL; WHAT DOES 2+2+RATS = ? 

wildwes35 to Bulldog75: Many are still respecting the Intel Blackout. Are you in agreement with the "blackout" of intel for a while?  Bulldog75: WILDWES35; VIDEO+RATS  TGdan to Bulldog75: I know....$12.36 Go RV! 

Bulldog75: TDDAN: ASTUTE U R.

Bulldog75: ON PHONE WITH OKIE:  HOLD PLS.

wwsr2001 to Bulldog75: mild research...FED was not legal from beginning, been there a long time, would mean basically entire monetary system has been corrupt for a long while, white dragons cleaning up mess, little if anything in news, media controlled, what could be next??, all has to be scrubbed prior to RV??

Bulldog75: WWSR2001 ANSWER: AHHHHH; SCRUBBING. ~ AND USE SOME CLOROX TOO.

Bulldog75: OKIE/BULLDOG75 REPORT: WE ARE GOOD TO GO. OPTIMISTIC. KEEP 747s WARMED UP AND REFUELED FOR TAKE OFF.

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Adam Montana Q & A - Post By KCW DinarVets
Adam Montana] I'm ready to spend some quality time with you all here this morning, so let's start the official chat
[Adam Montana] thank you all 
[Adam Montana] ok, couple of quick notes 


  [Adam Montana] 2nd
[Adam Montana] there is literally NOTHING "RV Worthy" to talk about this week. The only thing we have to look forward to at this time is the Arab Summit, and in my opinion the 
Summit isn't "that" exciting for the RV. 

[Adam Montana] the 3rd thing I have is about Warka 
[Adam Montana] after you hear this, you may think I am wrong about #2 that I just said


[Adam Montana] but I'll let you make up your own mind on that, and keep in mind this is pure "word of mouth". It's from a few of my contacts in Iraq, but it's still word of mouth and there is nothing official. 
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Bluwolf from 3sintel Chat Wed. Afternoon

 

2:39 PM [bluwolf] dove ty that is the correct way to go being silent,for if you want to recieve your blessing you must be so,it shall appear as a theif in the silence of the night,I spoke to a few about that yesterday and for stating that I get demoted but that is fine , I do not need a position to tell the truth

bluwolf] see you all in the banks soon......bluwolf has left this building adios

[bluwolf] next post will be on cap1,,be blessed
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More Dinarwishes and BellaGrits from 3sintel chat Wed. Afternoon
[DinarWishes] Guys I'm gonna spell it out for ya..... The reason we are shutting down lines of intel is because some sensitive intel has been released before and actually stalled theinevitable.... So, it's our decision to take away the possibility of prolongingwhat we all want.... It's for the best of all.... or do you still want me to
tell you everything?? 


[BellaGrits] DrRod I am sorry.... no details but things look great--- trust your team, please. We all are here for the same thing.

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DinarWishes posted in 3S's forum by AndieZ1 Wed morning
8:55 AM EST: 3s Intel [DinarWishes] Well guys and gals, I am really hopeful that we get some good intel today... Yesterday was kinda slow on the intel front... well.... good solid verifiable intel. So, we shall see how the day plays out... I am hopeful and have been told it can show up anytime today 'til the 8th.... if it goes past the 8th then we will look for the intel that will give us a bit more clarity... but so far this week has been quiet as a graveyard... which could be a great sign!!

[1biz4u] DinarWishes, are you still hearing today is the day?

[DinarWishes] 1biz4u - I'm hearing before the 8th

[dediperk08] DinarWishes - That's only another 48 hours

[DinarWishes] dediperk08 I guess we will see if it pans out or not....


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Arizona Heat at 3sintel Chat Wed. Morning
ArizonaHeat] Ok, there are 313,136,298 people in the US, out of that approx 1% are involved or know about the dinar investment. So about 3, million people are current with the Dinar RV. 

Now at any given time with all the chat sites, we have approximately 4 to 5 thousand people in chats all over the internet. Now there are 6,900,000,000 people in the world thats almost 7 Billion people. So are you trying to tell me that 4 to 5 thousand people are stopping the RV for 7 billion people. You can make up your own mind. going back to silent mode



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