Summary Quarterly Member Meeting [QMM]

Meeting Highlights & Materials... June 16th, 2022

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| KEYNOTE SPEAKER — Barend Dronkers, E Source

Beneficial Electrification... Is It Destined To Be Our Industry's 'New Normal'?

Where does your company stack up, Let's take stock, and are we ready by 2024?

Barend Dronkers, E Source, Products Strategist - Customer Energy Solutions, North America — Beneficial Electrification Subject Matter Expert 303-345-9012 • PDF PRESENTATION


How to market weatherization programs to vulnerable customers

Is it feasible to incorporate weatherization measures into a heat-pump retrofit program?

Heat Pumps Work at almost all temperatures: E Source report Cold-climate heat pumps are ready to bolster your decarbonization efforts

Electric-Ready Infrastructure: New tools and tech to prep your electrical panel for an all-electric home

Install Heat Pumps Instead Of ACs:

A new bill could speed up American electrification by 20 years

The Wonders of Weatherization: 

Improving Equity through Stimulus Funding


Rob Foley: Can you speak to how much more efficient an induction range is compared to a resistance range?

Jim Meyers: Redwood Energy in California has a few case studies on existing homes with 100 amp panel service that is now all-electric. According to popular mechanics, around 90% of the electricity consumed by an induction stove is used for cooking food. There is no heat energy escaping into the atmosphere. On average, an electrical cooktop uses 320 watt-hours of electricity to boil 2 liters of water compared to 225-watt hours for an induction cooktop.

Eric Wilson: Resistance cooktop EF = 0.74; induction cooktop EF = 0.84; so 13% more efficient.

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EV Charging

Rob Foley: I am about to take delivery on my F-150 Lightning (Whoo Hoo!)  I expect it to more than DOUBLE my electricity usage and Load (kW Draw). It will require a 100 AMP circuit for the charger.  IF every one of my neighbors also got one (our goal here!) that is a huge increase in the load on the grid. Clearly, there are a lot of infrastructures that need to be added as we move forward.

Jim Meyers: Rob, per Ford website: The Mobile Power Cord, capable of 30 Amps (A) charging on a 240V and 120V outlet, comes standard with all F-150 Lightning models. Also, Ford is NOT at the table helping to develop building codes. Tesla is at the table. Based on activity in California CALGreen, and the 2024 IECC the standard outlet for installing a charger will be a 40amp outlet.

Shawn (Mitsubishi): Rob, that’s a lot of juice. I can charge my Tesla Y 300 miles overnight on a 30A circuit, subordinate to my electric dryer. that needs to be added as we move forward.

Scott Milne: I sell EV Stations I hear all of the time that EV cars are more Polutive than Regular because of the Coal used from the grid. I understand that Xcel dumps a ton of nighttime unused wind energy. EV cars often charge at night. Is there extra ample nighttime energy that EV cars will use?

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Bill Green-RMH: What is the plan for major electrification of downtown Denver? We have studied several major buildings downtown and electric service upgrades will be significant. Is Xcel planning major substation and distribution upgrades and how long will those take?

Mark Schoenheider-Xcel Energy: Scott - Great Question - Yes, Xcel does have hours where we curtail renewable production because we have excess generation on the grid. We offer managed-to-charge programs that encourage customers to charge their EV during these times, reducing the amount of renewable generation that is curtailed.

Shawn (Mitsubishi): The Manual J mentions are correct but not ver simplified. I see cooling loads around 2/3 of heating loads. This is due to air leakage, solar heat gain, and internal heat gains. My 2.5-ton heat pump can heat my house. This replaced a lower efficiency 2.5-ton AC. I upgraded my insulation, air sealing, and windows to drop my loads. I stopped using my 80% 80 kBTU furnace.

Jim Meyers: Has the Colorado Energy Office published the application for the Energy Code Board?

Bill Green-RMH: Erin Kempster, that heat pump efficiency study was mentioned in the ASHRAE/NYSERDA heat pump Seminar #8, Heat Pump System Efficiency, Slide #40. It's very technical presentation but has very interesting results. Presentation Link

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Colorado Energy Office is soliciting applications for members to the “Energy Code Advisory Board” Contact Howard Geller or Patricia Rothwell. The Advisory Board will create the language for the required low-energy, carbon code.


Colorado's Building Performance Standard Public Survey

Bill Green, RMH | I am on the HB21-1286 Task Force. The Task Force is asking for input from the BPS by responding to their survey. Please take the time to respond and give us your feedback: Survey Link

| KEYNOTE SPEAKER — Mark Schoenheider, Xcel Energy

Xcel Energy Answers The Most Common Question By Consumers & The EE Industry... Do We Have Enough Energy To Electrify The Utility Grid?

Mark Schoenheider,

Xcel Energy, Manager Energy Efficiency Marketing | 303-294-2866


| 2022 Colorado Legislative Bill Summary, Howard Geller, EEBC Consultant

   PPT PRESENTATION | 303-447-0078 

| Xcel Energy 2023 DSM & 2024-25

  DSM Plan & Strategic Issues 


Justin Brant, Utility Program Co-Director,

Southwest Energy Efficiency Project [SWEEP] | 541-760-0042 

What EEBC’s Action Groups Are Doing to Get Ahead & Influence Rulemaking Decisions Impacting Their Business 


EEBC Action Groups and Heat Pump Field Experts Inform Policy Arguments 

Combined ExpertiseHoward Geller develops overarching goal-making for policy arguments with trade member input and coaches “field testimony witness” from industries such as:

• Heat Pumps/HVAC

• Building Envelope - Insulation/Air Sealing

• Commercial Lighting

Our Action Groups include contractors, distributors, and manufacturers that operate their businesses across Colorado. For the DSM Strategic Issues docket, they provide technical and market input on topics such as; appropriate BE targets, policies for training, market development programs, and program evaluation.




  #1. Committing to Financially Supporting Gap Funding

 #2. Participating In Your Industry's Action Groups

       & Policy Action Committee

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Are There Enough Workers to Support The Electrification Movement in Colorado?

What Workforce Changes to Plan for In Your Hiring? • Worker PipelIne   • Meet EEBC’s ‘Trainees’