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Dr. John M. Asquith 6 min read 1 day ago 10/19/23

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures 1st Corinthians 15:3,4.

When was it that the Apostle Paul first delivered to the Corinthians "how that Christ died for their sins according to the scriptures"? When did he first show them that Christ was buried and that he rose again the third day? Fortunately the word of God is very clear about that. He did so when he first came to Corinth. He did so before he even named Christ's name. He labored in the synagogue to convince his hearers what the scriptures said of the coming Christ before he even told them that he knew Christ and who he was.

Acts 18:1 After these things Paul departed from Athens, and came to Corinth;
Acts 18:2 And found a certain Jew named Aquila, born in Pontus, lately come from Italy, with his wife Priscilla; (because that Claudius had commanded all Jews to depart from Rome:) and came unto them.
Acts 18:3 And because he was of the same craft, he abode with them, and wrought: for by their occupation they were tentmakers.
Acts 18:4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks.
Acts 18:5 And when Silas and Timotheus were come from Macedonia, Paul was pressed in the spirit, and testified to the Jews that Jesus was Christ.


We cannot get a precise time table for how long the Apostle Paul preached in the synagogue before Silas and Timotheus caught up with him. We do know that Paul had commanded them to leave Berea and to join with him in Athens. We know that those who conducted Paul from Berea to Athens by sea carried back Paul's command to Silas and Timotheus to come and join him, (Acts 17:15). We know that Paul preached in the synagogue for however long it would take someone to:

1. sail by ship from Athens to Berea,
2. find the two disciples,
3. for the two disciples to sail to Athens only to find that Paul was not there,
4. and the two disciples to travel from Athens to Corinth and find Paul.
We can be sure that at the very least it would have taken many weeks, it may have taken months.

What was the Apostle Paul doing in the interim? He was preaching in the synagogue every sabbath persuading all who would listen. What was he persuading them about? Acts 18:5 tells us that he did not reveal the name of the promised Messiah (Christ) until Silas and Timotheus arrived. Instead he spent those weeks revealing scriptural facts about the "Christ" that they were expecting. He used the very scriptures that they read every sabbath
If Paul had not yet revealed the identity of the Christ, and if whatever he was preaching in the synagogue needed him to use persuasion, we can be sure it was not the standard fare of teaching in the synagogue. What the Apostle Paul was doing was preparing his listeners in exact accordance with his statements about the law; Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith, Galatians 3:24. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets, Romans 3:21.
The Apostle Paul spent many weeks persuading the Jews and Greek who came to the synagogue about the Christ from within the Old Testament scriptures. He used the same scriptures that Jesus Christ used on the road to Emmaus; And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself, Luke 24:27. He persuaded them with the same verses that Jesus Christ used in Luke 24:44 when he further taught his disciples; And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.
You will note that the Apostle Paul spent weeks preaching the death burial and resurrection of the Christ (without revealing who Christ was) by expounding all of the prophets (Acts 3:24, Acts 10:43, Luke 24:27), the Psalms, and Moses.
What troubles me in our time is that most American Fundamental King James Blah, Blah, Blah, churches, Baptist and otherwise have become sterile. They exhibit very little evidence of conversions other than their soul winning statistics. Their membership only changes when sea changes occur in surrounding churches.
If the average pastor had to confine his ministry to only those he himself found lost and undone without Christ, wooed to a saving knowledge in Christ and then labored over them until Christ was fully formed in them, he would have nothing or almost nothing.
Part of the sterility of his church stems from the sterility of his gospel. He has become straightened in his own bowels and sees the gospel as being strictly the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. That is an error. The gospel is the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ according to the scriptures. The good Apostle tells us that he used Old Testament scriptures to preach that. Paul did not preach that Jesus did those things. He preached HOW he did those things.
Look at our opening verses again. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures Corinthians 15:3, 4. What was the first presentation by the Apostle Paul to the Corinthian people? His first presentation took many weeks of persuading Jews and Greeks out of the Psalms, all of the Prophets and in Moses. He did that without once using any New Testament scriptures. He persuaded men by means of the Old Testament as to what to expect from the Christ.
If the average preacher today was asked to preach the death burial and resurrection of the Messiah and to persuade unbelieving Jews and Gentiles well versed in the Old Testament scriptures by revealing the prophecies of the coming Messiah from within their own scriptures, could he last for many weeks? Could he last more than 20 minutes?
Could he find the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ in the Book of Job?, Jonah?, Habakkuk?, the Psalms of Asaph (a prophet: Matthew 13:35)?, Moses? Could he hold the attention of a well attended synagogue for weeks at a time? If he cannot, he has never preached the gospel in accordance to 1st Corinthians 15:1-4.
There are two evangelists currently associated with my church who freely and with great power preach Christ from the Old Testament scriptures. In some churches this has been greeted with a genuine love of the truth. In others they are accused of adding to the gospel. (They are indeed adding to the sterile and powerless gospel preached by many.)
The effect of preaching the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ according to the scriptures in the same way that the Apostle Paul did has been life. Our church is filled with former drunkards, whores, drug users, Pharisees, and just plain old sinners who have come to Christ, turned their lives around and now raise their families in the house of God. Those churches that have accepted those two evangelists are experiencing genuine conversions.
On the other hand, I watch debates on Facebook and other places that remind me of medieval monks arguing over how many angels can fit on the head of a pin. Preachers joust with each other trying to be technically correct over how people get saved. Pastors call these two evangelists and tell them they have added to the gospel while meanwhile their congregations are stifled and never see growth from actual conversions.
If the Apostle Paul himself needed weeks of preparatory time to prepare the soil for the seed of the word of God, and if he indeed spent weeks preparing his audience of devout men by grounding them in prophecies of the coming Messiah (Christ) before he revealed Jesus Christ through the foolishness of preaching, do you suppose that might help explain the lack of converts in our churches? You are not preaching the gospel according to 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 if you do not preach from the law to bring men to repentance.
If you contact me by email asquithjm@gmail.com I will gladly send you a copy of my book Who Moved the Goal Posts: A Critique of 21st Century Soul winning. Or, go to www.andsomeevangelists.com and begin listening to the daily podcasts. Or, go to www.onesoulattime.net and click on Liberty Behind Bars or Dale Morey. May the Lord take the wise among you and open your understanding.


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Last week, I asked the women on Instagram how feminism had influenced them. I shared how it influenced me: “I automatically expected my husband to help with housework and was mad when he didn’t. I expected him to meet my emotional needs. I wasn’t submissive towards him at all for many years. I thought we were all supposed to go to college and have careers since making money was more important than making and raising babies (even though I didn’t want to go to college nor have a career).”
When I was reading over these responses, I was thankful that they all had eyes to see the lies that they believed.
“It made me think that I should be doing more than taking care of my children, husband, and home.”
“I didn’t submit which killed my family unit, made life sour for my children, and more.”
“That my career was to come before having children.”
“I thought ‘my body, my choice’ in what I do with it.”
“Convinced me to get a divorce when I was 24.”
“Expecting him to romance me the way movie men do.”
“Expecting equal load in the home.”
“Feeling of shame for not contributing financially.”
“I had the false mindset that I was infallible and only my husband made mistakes.”
“Delayed marriage leading to living in sin beforehand and delayed having kids. I believe my biggest regret on my deathbed will be not getting married and having kids sooner. I’ll never get that time back, and I’ll always wish for more time with my family.”
“I wanted to prove to men that they didn’t need to open up doors for me or carry heavy things for me.”
“My value was in college, money, independence, and my place in church.”
“Thinking until my mid-20s that children were an ‘option’ and thought I didn’t want them for a long time.”
“I was on the pill for the first 17 years of our marriage. I went to university and was a teacher. We waited way too long to have babies. I was never taught to cook, clean, or sew. I put my first baby into child care at six months of age. Huge regret!”
“Yes, equal in housework, bringing in money, working, kids are a burden, and marriage is optional.”
“Made me embarrassed for ‘just’ being a SAHM.”
“Similarly, I was so proud to go to college, teach other people’s children, and institutionalize mine.
“Only in negative ways. Made me prideful. Arrogant. Toxic. But Jesus healed me.”
“Took out tons of debt for a career and put off having kids. God is redeeming my story now though.”
“Made me work outside the home.”
“I was immersed in feminism via public school growing up. I struggle daily with my expectations of my husband and myself. Doing my best now to undo but it’s hard.”
“Many things. The first I remember as a kid is feeling guilty for wanting to be a stay-at-home mom.”
“I was told I had to go to college, get a degree and have a career. I always wanted to stay home.”
“My self-defensive attitude may have cost me one of the best relationships I’ve ever had.”
“My mother made me believe having children would be a burden and ruin my life like it did hers.”
“It made me believe I had to depend on myself only. It was hard and very lonely.”
“I was disrespectful to my husband and had a hard time with submission. I even questioned God about it.”
“Basically your description. Since submitting to the Word, marriage is far better! God’s ways are best.”
“To be an independent women who doesn’t need anyone.”
“It’s engrained in my thinking but God is rich in mercy and is renewing my mind and heart.”
“Waited to get married for years so we could go to college.”
“Sadly, I chased my career and didn’t put the time into relationships and children.”
“Suffering from thousands of dollars in debt.”
“Husband has wanted me to work even though his salary is enough.”
“Selfish mentality that money is far more useful than raising immortal souls.”
“Disrespecting my husband and making fun of him in public. I used to think it was a way to be playful.”
“It made me hate men and be an egotistical Jezebel.”
“I used to not want kids and thought submission was terrible. I was SO wrong. It now influences me to want many babies and a godly marriage.”
“I thought being a wife and mother were slavery. Now, that’s all I want to be!”
“I went to college and it ruined my relationship with my boyfriend and parents! I highly regret it.”
“I went against my innate desire to have babies and waited way too long to meet a good man and start a family.”
“Separate bank accounts. Sharing home duties. Thank you, Lord, for convicting me.”
“I went to college and have tremendous debt.”
“I felt the pressure to find my purpose outside of the home and marriage which gave me so much unneeded stress.”
“It made motherhood unattractive, and I still fight this in my flesh. I hate this fight.”
“Always thought that being a SAHM meant you were lazy, dumb, weak, and dependent.”
“Fully bought into it and even majored in Women’s Studies in college. Then, I woke to Truth!”
“Made me think abortion was okay until Christ found me, and I became a believer!”
“Thinking my opinions outweigh his. Learning to be submissive was the hardest.”
“I didn’t have kids until my mid 30s because of my career. Regret it. Wish I could have had more.”
“Made me lack joy first eight years of motherhood because I thought I should be doing something more.”
“Feeling my feelings trumped everyone else’s.”
“I thought that I should NEVER do something my husband wants me to do if I didn’t want to. LIES!”
“My family pushed college and career more than faith and motherhood.”
“It made me unsure of how to be a wife or even womanly. It made me argumentative and even fat.”
“Taught to prioritize achievement and to excel in the workplace but not as a homemaker.”
“I had two seven week abortions, and it was constantly putting me in the defense against my partner.”
“I was an entitled victim in my marriage early on: passive aggressive and very controlling.”
“That living together before marriage was necessary.”
“Raised by mom to think that women who don’t work outside of the home are worthless!”
“He should be my perfect prince, and I can be demanding and lazy.”
Stop listening to the lies of the enemy and our culture. Read and study God’s Word instead. His ways are perfect!
For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1 Corinthians 3:19

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The History of How Evangelism Was Corrupted
Among Independent Baptists
June 13, 2023 (first published September 27, 2017)
David Cloud, Way of Life Literature, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061
866-295-4143, fbns@wayoflife.org
The following is excerpted from The Discipling Church: The Church That Will Stand Until Christ Comes. See end of this report for details.

Prior to the 1970s, Independent Baptist churches in general were spiritually stronger than today (though never strong enough, in our estimation), and one reason was that they were more careful about salvation. 

Consider some prominent examples:
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CONCLUSION

Shallow, unscriptural soul winning and neglect of repentance have produced incredibly weak churches. It has produced churches that are mixed multitudes instead of churches of disciples.
If professing Christians are rebels against God’s Word and refuse to obey the preaching, refuse to be faithful, refuse to separate from the world, are insubordinate to pastoral authority, it is probably because they aren’t saved. As we have seen, the Bible is very clear on this point. See, for example, John 8:4710:27Titus 1:161 John 2:3-4
Most churches are far too careless about salvation. They pronounce people, including children, saved on a mere profession with no regard for biblical evidence. 
Long ago I rejected this tradition. My sole authority for faith and practice is the Bible, and in the Bible we see an emphasis on genuine spiritual conversion with evidence. 
One of my first books was Does Salvation Make a Difference? For more than 40 years I have warned about the carelessness I have witnessed both in Southern Baptist and Independent Baptist churches. We want to follow the Bible, not human tradition, and the biblical example is Acts 2:41-42. This is a description of a church of born again disciples. 
“Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they continued stedfastly in the apostles’ doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers.”



Consider some prominent examples:
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