March 2025

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A Letter from the Chapter President


Spring is almost here, and with it, we find ourselves in the middle of a strong and engaging season for the NIRI Virtual Chapter. Our 2024-25 programming has been met with high attendance, covering topics such as IR storytelling, advocacy, regulatory updates, market structure, and M&A—ensuring our members stay ahead in an evolving landscape. 



As we continue this momentum, I invite you to join us for two upcoming events: Navigating the Landscape of Earnings Communications in the Age of AI on March 12, and a members-only Cafe Chat on March 20, where members can engage in open discussions and share insights. We will continue to host monthly programming through May (watch your email for invites) and will cap the season off with a strong presence at the NIRI National Conference in Boston.


Speaking of NIRI National, I hope you all saw the announcement that went out. Virtual Chapter Board Members Bernadette McCormick, Julie Guymon, and Jorden Hansen have planned an exciting event for this year’s national conference as a member benefit for NIRI Virtual members. We’re sunsetting the Lounge Lizard party and replacing it with a Pre-Conference Brunch Reception—a great opportunity for networking and catching up with colleagues. The brunch will be held on Sunday, June 1, 2025, from 10:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. EDT at 75 on Liberty Wharf. Whether you stay for the entire time or drop in at your convenience, you’ll enjoy an open house and social reception featuring a chef’s choice buffet paired with drinks, fellowship, and fun! Check your email from last week to find the invitation and registration link. 


The NIRI Virtual Chapter is proud to be the number one chapter in the country. That success is driven by your engagement and contributions. Your insights help ensure we continue to offer valuable and relevant programming, and together, we will maintain our strong momentum. Our programming year ends in June, and we invite you to be even more involved by nominating yourself or someone you respect to our Board of Directors. Application information is below. 



Thank you for your support and engagement. I look forward to seeing you at our upcoming events!


All the best,



John Nunziati

NIRI Virtual Chapter President

Upcoming Events


Navigating the Landscape of Earnings Communications In the Age of AI

Wednesday, March 12, 2025 (Tomorrow!) at 12:00 PM EDT / 9:00 AM PDT


Panelists will share their insights on earnings communications amid rapid changes and introduction of policies from the new US administration, as well as the rise of AI, quantitative trading, and algorithmic-driven sentiment analysis. This panel will explore how IR professionals are adapting their communication strategies to ensure their messages are clearly understood by both human and machine audiences, navigating increased volatility, and balancing accuracy with concise messaging. Register Here!



NIRI Virtual Café Chat (Members Only)

Thursday, March 20, 2025, at 12:00 PM EDT / 9:00 AM PDT


Café Chats are informal, discussion sessions for NIRI Virtual Chapter members. Discussions start around a topic, but branch off into any issues that are raised by members on the call. Café Chats are a great way to get informed and get to know other members in a more casual setting. Registration information coming in email.


Upcoming:


NIRI Virtual and NIRI Silicon Valley Present: Corporate Access Confidential - Investor Perspective

Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 12:00 PM EDT / 9:00 AM PDT

Registration to come.


NIRI Virtual Café Chat (Members Only)

Thursday, April 17, 2025, at 12:00 PM EDT / 9:00 AM PDT

Registration to come.


NIRI Virtual Book Club (Members Only) - Book TBD

Friday, April 25, 2025, at 12:00 PM EDT / 9:00 AM PDT

Please contact admin@nirivirtual.org to be notified of the choice of book and for the meeting link.




If you have trouble registering for any event, please contact admin@nirivirtual.org

Congratulations to the VC Members recognized as the newest Investor Relations Charter (IRC®) holders:



  • David Levine, IRC
  • Michelle Porhola, IRC
  • Quentin Weber, IRC

You're Invited!

Going to the NIRI Annual Coference? Come for a Bostonian Pre-Conference Brunch warm-up on the wharf on Sunday, June 1, 2025.


Don't miss this opportunity to connect with fellow NIRI Virtual Chapter members, discuss conference goals, and help us create the buzz before conference kick-off.


Drop-in on Virtual Chapter's brunch reception between 10:30 am and 1:30 pm at

75 on Liberty Wharf Sunday, June 1, 2025.


Space is limited and registration is required. Please register here!


Join the NIRI Virtual Book Club!


Did you know NIRI Virtual has its own Book Club? Come join us! Open to all NIRI Virtual Chapter members, the Book Club meets every few months. Join us for a lively discussion and to meet some other VC members! Please contact Paige Tractenberg at admin@nirivirtual.org for the book choice and the meeting link.


Please contact Paige Tractenberg at admin@nirivirtual.org for the meeting link.


We are "calling for volunteers"! The NIRI Virtual board is made up of a diverse set of IR professionals who plan and execute professional development events, educate members, and offer networking opportunities. We are looking for new and existing chapter members to join the board to help drive the chapter ever further forward next year. Please email admin@nirivirtual.org to let us know your interest so we can provide more details on the requirements, commitments, and benefits of joining the board. 

The NIRI Annual Conference is the premier professional development and networking event of the year bringing together IR professionals from across the U.S. and around the world. In an industry that is quickly evolving, it is crucial to keep ahead of emerging trends and developments that can impact your organization. NIRI2025 delivers the solutions and connections you need to thrive in an ever-changing and complex landscape. Register!


NIRI Virtual Scholarship Available!


NIRI Virtual offers a limited number of scholarships for chapter members to attend the NIRI Annual Conference. Please email Paige Tractenberg at admin@nirivirtual.com for application and eligibility details.

Join NIRI Virtual!


Love NIRI Virtual's content and community, but not yet a member? Join us! NIRI Virtual is now the largest NIRI chapter! Chapter members hail from more than 10 countries and over 35 industries, representing all ranges of market capitalization and IROs just entering the profession to those with decades of experience. This wide-reaching, global perspective enhances our members' networking and idea-sharing opportunities. 

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Welcome New Members!

NIRI Virtual is the largest NIRI Chapter! with over 285 members worldwide. New NIRI Virtual members who joined recently include the following. Welcome!

Bob Calver

Alliance Laundry Systems LLC


Jeffrey Chastain

H&E Equipment Services, Inc.


Grace Chesnut

H&E Equipment Services, Inc.


Tanvi Chopra

Confluent, Inc.


Mollie Condra

HealthStream, Inc.


Adrian Dacruz

Trend Intelligence


Scott Deitz

Convene Communication Strategies


Stanley Elliott

UFP Industries, Inc.


Aron Feingold

Geron Corporation


Zachary Graeve

ZSG Ventures


Shari Hellerman

GATX Corporation


Stephen Lyons

Ardagh Metal Packaging S.A.


Eli Marcus

The Buddy Group

Amelia Mazloom

ICR, LLC


Kayla Money

Denny's Corporation


Tracy Moran

Impinj, Inc.


Zack Mukewa

LLYC


Anne Rakunas

Helen of Troy Limited


Mark Rupe

Iron Mountain Incorporated


Corbin Smith

Shoals Technologies Group, Inc.


Paige Tractenberg

NIRI Virtual


Marissa Vidaurri

Open Lending Corporation


Benjamin Widtfeldt

Genesys


Kate Winschuh

e.l.f. Beauty, Inc.


David Young

AFLAC Incorporated

Archived Events (Members Only)


Did you know that NIRI Virtual's events are available for replay? Please click below for replays and head to NIRI Virtual's Member Content -> Past Programs section for replays and supporting materials. If you need your password to enter the Members' Only page, please send a request to info@nirivirtual.org.


Korn Ferry: Trends in Investor Relations Careers & Compensation – Beyond the Numbers


Challenges with Sellside Coverage (or Lack Thereof)


Navigating M&A with IR Excellence


Advocacy Update: Issues on the Hill


Signature Stories for Investor Relations


From the Military to the Capital Markets


Corporate Access Confidential: The Buy-side View


Expanding and Augmenting Your Investor Targeting Strategy


Navigating the ESG Ecosystem in 2024 (and beyond)

Horses and Wagons


Suppose you were a wagon dealer when Henry Ford introduced the Model T.

The livery business – supplying horses and wagons – fell into decline. The smart ones probably opened Ford dealerships.


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In June 2024, Capital Group, the largest active manager of US stocks, said it would “diversify away from its core equity franchise to stem client withdrawals,” according to a Reuters story. Reuters said Capital Group had five straight years of outflows including $100 billion from its equity funds in 2022 and 2023. It’s because Passive funds have surpassed Active ones for assets under management. Capital’s Growth Fund of America is the largest actively managed fund with about $300 billion of assets. But it’s a net seller. Top holdings: META, MSFT, GOOG, AMZN, AVGO, NVDA, AAPL, TSLA. Cost to investors: 61 basis points.


The largest passive fund is the Vanguard Total Stock Market Index. Assets, about $1.8 trillion. Top holdings: AAPL, NVDA, MSFT, META, GOOG, AMZN, AVGO,TSLA.

Cost: 4 basis points. They own the same things but Capital Group costs 15 times more. I looked up 13F holdings for the largest 25 owners of US stocks. Capital Group is the only strict active manager left. And it’s a net seller. The rest are hybrids now, or passives, asset-allocation managers.


And get this: Three of the top 25 are proprietary trading firms with nearly $2 trillion of

13F positions last quarter, most of that in puts and calls. They’ve passed stock pickers! Asset managers buy products, not stories, the herd, not the outliers. They’re after the opposite of stock-picking.


When I was a young tight-skinned investor-relations guy, I crafted an investment thesis that differentiated our company from thousands of other choices. I highlighted our value drivers (return of capital, strong balance sheet, disciplined cost management) and growth drivers (network technology, pricing power, M&A).


If the c-suite executed on the plan, and we communicated our success consistently and well, we would – presto! – create shareholder value.


Issuers still do the same things. Tell the story. Target buy-and-hold investors.

Differentiate. Make those earning releases pop! Deliver alpha!


Marc Rowan, CEO and co-founder of Apollo Group, told CNBC’s Andrew Ross Sorkin at the Economic Club of New York in June of 2023: “There is no alpha in public equities. Eighty-five to 93% of active managers don’t beat the benchmark.”

Alpha is outperformance versus the same risk, and it doesn’t exist. Stock-pickers like Capital Group see outflows because they don’t outperform the S&P 500 (which is beta). And you can buy the performance of the stock market – beta – for a few basis points.


What’s more, Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street, don’t seek alpha. They buy beta.

That’s why over the past fifteen years active managers have seen a swing of $500 billion to $1 trillion annually. First Trust says in the 12 months ended September 30, 2024, Actives lost $300 billion from US equities while Passives picked up over $400 billion. A $700 billion swing.


The bane of Passive investment is volatility. Every earnings season public companies spend tens, maybe hundreds, of millions of dollars flooding the wires with headlines and data that create volatility. It’s anachronistic. Nothing gets you booted from baskets like a 10% move up or down.


So, be beta. Every public company needs a proactive, intentional PASSIVE strategy

because that’s what most of the money is now. You can’t talk your way into an index

fund. But you CAN do the things that make that index fund see you as a great product.


At the top of the list is changing how you report earnings. Don’t pump out gobs of data for machines to turn into volatility that boots you from Passive funds. Stop selling horses and wagons to an automobile market.


By Tim Quast. Quast is the founder and President of the longtime Virtual Chapter sponsor

ModernIR.com, a premier provider of analytics and services for today’s quantitative stock

market. For more information, please visit modernir.com.

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