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Guest Speaker
Fiona Ma is the first woman of color and first CPA elected as State Treasurer. She also garnered the most votes in that position in the history of California. More than 3 trillion transactions clear her office every year, which also covers oversight on government funds and investments. The State of California investment portfolio is currently over $200M. She is also the Agent of Sale for the state funds and trustee of billions more. She was installed as a Rotary member in Oakland a couple months ago, along with Kawanas, Lions and other organizations. (only Rotary really counts!)
As the banker for state of California, $3.7 Trillion dollars passes through her office. Her total portfolio is $150B today, including numerous state boards she sits on as a board member.
State Treasurer is her fourth elected position, preceded by Assembly and state Senate, (serving ultimately as majority whip and speaker pro tem), and sat on the State Board of Equalization. Fiona also loves to raise money for non-profits.
Fiona walked through the state of California finances by offering the Club an insight of the past few years, with the visit by Mr. Covid. Everything was moving along and then Covid hit and the state had a $46B surplus. Everyone was still spending money but generated within the state, generating lots of sales tax in the state and not out of state, and still buying and selling stocks, generating capital gains taxes. Then the governor put more money into infrastructure projects and rebated tax funds back to state taxpayers along with the federal stimulus. The following year there was a $96B surplus. This year the state coffers had a $31B deficit due to lay-offs in the high-tech sector, lower home sales, and lower sales taxes collected. She and the governor met the challenge through delayed spending, internal borrowing, and shifted funding. (Tax gimmickry in my humble opinion). Taxes are now due October 16th. The state is expecting $42B to come in from state income tax and $34B in rainy day funds.
Now the questions from Club members
- PPx2 Chris Gaynor – any pending state tax laws that increase tax revenues? And thoughts on investing in municipal bonds? Answer – in the past you can buy Calif bonds directly. Now you must go through brokers. California has always received very good ratings. Credit agencies upgraded California in her first year term.
Fiona added that Legislation was passed requiring a budget pass on time or cost legislators their pay. First year legislators lost 4 days of pay. Next year, budget passed early.
The California Fiscal Year is June 30th
- PP Ed Gauld – Ed observed that 90% of general fund is generated from personal income taxes and sales tax and a little corporate tax and fees make up the balance. California’s dependency on personal income taxes is the highest in the nation. Prop 13 does not allow the state to increase the property taxes too much. Some people want to change the income tax and include a service fee instead. PP Gordon Fell had the right answer, “Cut costs”. Fiona responded that the state is also looking at oil and gas extraction fees and tobacco taxes. Approximately 99% of state taxpayers in California have until Oct. 16th to pay their taxes. (Schmucks like me paid them early)
- PP Tom Barron had a question about the refund made from surplus funds, but for those who did not pay taxes. Like his barber.
- Roozbeh asked about how funds are allocated for services. Approx 50% of the general fund goes to K-12 education, health and human services takes about 35% and Medi-Cal, prisons, etc account for about 10% and the balance for other items.
- Phil Gabriel asked about California going to other states and auditing for the “use” tax. Fiona confirmed that California maintains offices in a number of states to audit out-of-state companies and when they generate the California “use” tax.
- PP Mike Newman asked what the increased revenues are for the Prop 19 parent-to-child wipe out. And the Capital Gains (which is a federal tax) is forcing people to stay in their house to avoid it. Fiona responded that Prop 21 and 22 addressed that issue, and still allows homeowners to keep their Prop 13 taxes and still leave it to a direct heir, unless the heir(s) rent it or sell it.
- PP Steve Scherer asked about the impact of migration out of California. Fiona responded that migration exits of high net-worth individuals has had a negative impact on revenues. She does not have a measure on that.
- PE Ben Fisher asked where our local government gets their money – Fiona told us that L.A. City and County governments are notoriously slow in everything without exception, including the paperwork to receive state funds. Also, the 1% millionaire’s tax is underwriting $2.0B in bonds to help homeless. (not sure I got that correctly).
President Day thanked Treasurer Ma for her talk.
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