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Between PODER staff and community experiences outside, Griselda Piedra has been outside with SUM more than anyone else. She shared her take in a recent conversation with SUM's Executive Director, Josh Ellis.
Josh: You've talked in the past about how good you feel during and after experiences outside with SUM. What are five words that describe how you feel?
Griselda: Free. Energized. Connected. Grounded. Inspired.
Josh: You've been on several team sessions with SUM, from the woods to the Riverwalk and beyond. What's the immediate and lasting impact of those sessions?
Griselda: Immediately it’s a vibe shift — walls come down; joy goes up. Long-term, it strengthens trust, improves communication, and reminds us that creativity thrives when we step outside the usual. Core memory building with my team.
Josh: Several PODER community experiences outside with SUM are the largest we've ever run. 75 people on horseback. 50 folks hiking at the Dunes. 140 people learning to kayak! What's going on here? What are we tapping into?
Griselda: We’re tapping into joy, curiosity, and a deep desire for belonging. SUM helps unlock the part of us that remembers we deserve nature, movement, and connection — no matter our background or story. But it goes even deeper: we’re also tapping into people’s memories and lived experiences from their home countries — moments they thought they had left behind or could never recreate. These outings become bridges between past and present, offering space to share those stories while creating new ones with their families here in the U.S.
Josh: What's been your favorite SUM experience to date?
Griselda: It’s hard to choose! Horseback riding with 75 community members was unforgettable — watching fear turn into pride and laughter truly felt like healing in motion. But our fall 2025 PODER team outing might take the top spot. Taking the water taxi and walking the Riverwalk sparked some of the most meaningful conversations we've had as a team. The way the experience opened space to share challenges, align our strengths, and find ways to better support one another — that kind of connection is powerful.
Josh: Last question, any Chicago region bucket list goals outside SUM should be looking into?
Griselda: Moonlight paddle on the Chicago River; a winter bonfire + storytelling night; a trip down to Starved Rock with bilingual guides... and maybe an Amazing Race adventure or scavenger hunt!
Josh: Awesome. Good thing we're just getting started!
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