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July 10, 2020
The coronavirus pandemic has forced journalists to collect their stories from afar. Conducting an in-person interview is near impossible. On the telephone or on a video call, the ability to pay attention is crucial. Do you listen, or do you wait to ask? The National Press Club Journalism Institute has invited two of the best interviewers in journalism —   Terry Gross   and   Michael Barbaro — for a discussion about the challenges and opportunities of interviewing now. Marketplace correspondent  Kimberly Adams  will moderate.

The pandemic, economic struggles and demands for social justice have forced newsrooms to account for their own failures at diversity, inclusion and representative coverage. 

The News Leaders Association and the National Press Club Journalism Institute hosted a conversation with executive editors Katrice Hardy of the Indianapolis Star and Mary Irby-Jones of The (Jackson) Clarion-Ledger on how they are leading their newsrooms in light of Black Lives Matter. Gannett executive Mizell Stewart III moderated the program.

Here are some takeaways.

On confronting challenging moments

Irby-Jones : It's been challenging in some ways and rewarding. For instance, we had an elected official basically say that Black people in this country have nothing to complain about because when they were slaves, their owners took care of them, fed them, clothed them and gave them a place to live. So he didn't understand what the complaints were about. And that was a moment when I had to be calm and really guide the reporter — direct that person to reach out to the elected official who said this and really see if he really meant that. And unfortunately, he did mean it. And so you know, having to remain calm and professional when someone makes a remark like that really does challenge you. I'm glad to know that I was able to step back and push the reporter to really try and reach out to him and engage him in a conversation to understand exactly what he meant.

Hardy : When I first started, before the protest started actually, we had a fatal police shooting in Indy, where a young man had Facebook Live shooting. And right after that, days of protests started. One of the first days of the protest after his death, there were a couple of people at protests that told some of our Indy Star staff that they weren't welcome there. And instantly I thought, ‘oh wow this speaks volumes.’ And it was one case, but it spoke volumes to how we were viewed and maybe what we weren't doing. So it was a wonderful opportunity to kind of reset and have those conversations. We have not figured it out yet. I wish we had, but we're having really good conversations about what we do, how we approach it.  

On the importance of self-reflection

Irby-Jones : The Black Lives Matter movement created an opportunity for me to examine, and for our newsroom to examine, how we're actually focused on covering Mississippi. I came back to Jackson, Mississippi, last year after being away for a while, and one of the things that became very clear to me quickly is that we have a huge disconnect from our community. ... We're not connected to the daily lives and what people are doing, and Black Lives Matter has given me the perfect opportunity to talk to this staff and also to ask myself the question of how do we reflect our community? Are we really covering the people in the community and giving people an insight into the quality of lives in our community?

Hardy : Indy has a really active Diversity Committee. And they run a lot of things by each other, the stories that they’re working on. We've got a story in the works about things being named across the state after soldiers and people who basically owned slaves, and that's the same story across the country. But they pitched each other those stories and said, “Hey, how can I make this be more nuanced than just the list? Who should I talk to? Or what are the landmines that I need to face?” ...

We had an intern last week raise a question about a story she was covering, a protest, and she didn't get a chance to talk to the person, and she goes, “Well, I don't know if that's a he or she because I didn't ask, and shouldn't we be asking those questions?” And so I think by putting yourself out there, being authentic, saying what you struggle with allows others to open up and do so. And I don't think we would have had that conversation, probably if the intern hadn't raised it. It was a very good question to explore and this new age, you know, of things that we cover as journalists.

The National Press Club Journalism Institute is spotlighting the next generation of journalists , students who graduated from college or Master’s programs this spring into a challenging job market . We hope they’ll meet future bosses and colleagues here, who will reach out and support them in building journalism’s future together. 

Name : Zack Demars
School : University of Oregon
Location : Eugene, OR
Student media : Daily Emerald
Journalism hero : Steven Rich at The Washington Post

What's been your best moment in journalism?

Demars : I spent two months investigating the resume of a newly appointed university official. My investigation revealed that she'd made unverifiable claims on her resume, and the story I wrote was one of the most-read of the season. That story also began a new process at our paper, wherein we explain at the bottom of the story how and why we do contentious stories like this one to build trust with our readers.

What's the wackiest story you've worked on? 

Demars : I went to a small town in the south of Russia last winter to report on Cold War pen-pal programs. The full story was born out of a much smaller story here in Oregon that a team of colleagues and I had discovered and decided to pursue. To make a long story very short, I can't include a link here because the reporting has been wrapped into a forthcoming nonfiction book about the whole affair.


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You know you need a break, but you’re reluctant to step away . You fear letting people down, or missing important information, or setting a bad example by your absence. And you know it’s not healthy. Here’s a tip: Start with the assumption that you deserve to take breaks. Stop feeling guilty about it. Your boss and your company truly don’t want you to risk your physical or mental well-being. When you untether, you give others permission to take timeouts and begin the journey of resilience .

Advice from  Jill Geisler , Bill Plante Chair in Leadership & Media Integrity, Loyola University Chicago, Freedom Forum Fellow in Women’s Leadership
You know that exercise is vital for your physical and mental health. And that being outside is good for you. And that getting a good night’s sleep is important.

Running — or walking — is an easy way to combine these three components of self-care. 

First, it offers countless health benefits . Second, you can get started right outside your front door. Third, it improves your quality of sleep . 

Here are some tips, for novice and seasoned runners alike, to maintain your running routine safely:

  • Get the right equipment. Running is a low-maintenance sport, but you still need to be prepared. You will need the right type of shoe. A good rule of thumb is to go a half-a-size up from your normal shoes. You may also consider ditching cotton clothing, especially in the warmer (or rainier) months.  
  • Increase your intensity or distance conservatively. Running too many miles or too fast can lead to injury. When upping your weekly mileage, try and stay within the 10 percent range. It’s also a good idea not to increase both speed and distance at the same time.
  • Try a walk/run combination. Intervals are a great way to build fitness. If you are new to running — or feel stuck in your routine — change up the pace. Go for 4:2 intervals, mixing up running with walking. This will help boost endurance while not burning you out.
  • Understand how heat impacts performance. No way around it, hot weather makes running harder. Do not worry about speed during the summer months; take it slow and always stop if you need water. (Here are tips for making summer running more bearable.)    
  • Bring a friend. A running buddy can help you stay motivated, but keep CDC guidance for social distancing in mind. 
  • Consider a different mask for running. If you are running in a crowded area, you may want to wear a mask. Some companies offer better breathable fabrics. You can also try a bandana, or something that you can pull down after passing others.
  • Set monthly goals. Even if there are no races on the calendar, you can still hit new milestones, whether you’re chasing a new personal record or just getting started.

Another benefit? Running/walking does not require a fancy gym membership and allows you to socially distance from other exercisers.

Read on for more self-care tips, or share your own .
This newsletter is written & edited by the National Press Club Journalism Institute staff: Beth Francesco, Holly Butcher Grant, Jim Kuhnhenn, and Julie Moos. Send us your questions and suggestions for topics to cover.

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