Romanosky Automotive Weekly Gazette #50

Sadly, celebrity endorsement and Corinthian leather don't elevate an average car to classic status.

What Makes A Car A Future Classic...

and What Doesn't

In last week's column I described a car's journey from new car to 'just a used car' to appreciating classic. Is it possible to look at the 200 or so new cars available today and predict which ones are destined to just be recycled, and which ones will turn out to be appreciating classics? Can we identify those characteristics that will lead to a reversal of depreciation? What is the common thread that classic vehicles share?


If we look at the various classic car price guides and indexes we see perhaps 500 cars that are investment worthy. Somehow or other these cars are special; either by design, technology, performance or cultural impact. Most often they have defined a shift in the marketplace, or created a new segment.


Many classics were yesterday's 'Halo' cars, produced by the manufacturer to demonstrate new technology.  Some were necessary to  homologate a racing car by producing a limited run of street versions. Others were introduced to generate column inches of press. Many were unprofitable, which is why not many were made.  


Other cars, like the Citroen DS, had a massive cultural impact. The 'Goddess' stole the 1955 Paris Auto show - in the first 15 minutes over 700 orders were taken! Citroen went on to make almost 1.5M of them, and the car became ingrained in French culture. The best examples now approach the cost of a proper restoration.


Not so the made-in-Canada Cordoba, sadly. A triumph of marketing and celebrity endorsement over engineering, Chrysler sold 150,000 of them per year in the mid to late 1970's. Even today, most people have heard of the famous 'Corinthian Leather'.  The Cordoba was certainly an impactful car, and I am sure one day the 10 remaining cars will be worth something. As I know from personal experience (!), it isn't now.


Fortunately for restorers and classic car dealers, there were many cars sold in volume that have a robust market today, though they have a value ceiling due to their production numbers. When the prices start to rise, more cars come to market and an equilibrium is established.


Most production-based cars will cost $150k-$200k to restore today. Often the cars that had the most monumental impact were sold in relatively large quantities: MG TC, Jaguar XK 120, Mercedes SL, Citroen DS, Jaguar E Type, Porsche 911, BMW 2002, Alfa Romeo GTV, Fiat Spider, Corvette - to name several. For the most part, at the upper end of the market, these cars sell for the cost of restoration - as you can always find another example and restore it. To get more than this, the car would have to be an exceptionally original car or be a limited production variant.  Meaning you can't just, 'go find another'.


If you are valuing one of these cars, you can ask, "Can I duplicate this car at this price?" As long as you are getting the car you want, and it is less than the cost of restoring one, you should be happy. Regardless of what the market does, you will still get the utility and enjoyment from the automobile. Once you start paying more than the cost of restoration you are buying the VIN, and enter into the speculative market. 


Another question to ask might be, "What is the cost of a modern equivalent". There are few classics which are worth more than their replacement cost. The vast majority of Corvettes, Ferraris and Porsches sell for less than the cost of a new one.  The small number of variants that sell for above the new car MRSP are in some way special. 

 

It isn't a very long list of cars whose values exceed the cost of restoration, or exceed their replacement cost. Some examples are the McLaren F1, the last of the Mezger engined Porsche 911 GT cars and the Carrera GT, some of the AMG 'Black' series cars and the Ford GT's... The commonality here is production volume, which isn't more than a few thousand copies and is only 106 for the $20M F1. 


It is interesting that when new, most of these cars were a tough sell.  McLaren was going to make 100 road cars but couldn't sell that many and converted some into racing cars.  Porsche had to cut back the intended 1,500 production run of the CGT and many sat on dealer lots, unsold.  The same dealers couldn't sell the GT2RS when they were new in 2011, as nobody thought a 911 could be worth $300k.  Ford dealers didn't know what to do with the GT when it came out in the 2000's. 


Hardly any of these cars remain with their original owners - only the most committed and astute collectors like Ralph Lauren and Jay Leno still have their F1s, which are now worth 20x what they paid.  There is a lesson in there somewhere.


Rarity alone is not a guarantee of a future classic.  Lots of cars are rare because nobody wanted to buy them, or because they were extremely expensive and had a thin market. There is always going to be a better, more powerful, faster hypercar and buyers want the newest and flashiest. Who wants yesterday's 800hp Ferrari, when today's 900hp version is on the cover of the Du Pont registry? The old car will be worth less. Same thing with a new Bentley or Rolls Royce - they are in for a long period of just being used cars and will hit a floor at a small percentage of their new car MRSP.


Porsche and Ferrari very carefully orchestrate the release of their Hypercars - they don't make them every year. A Carrera GT isn't better than a 959 or a 918 Hybrid; they each represent the pinnacle of technology in their eras. The same goes for the Ferrari 288 GTO/F40/F50/Enzo and LaFerrari. Ferrari is the undisputed master of this:  they have convinced collectors that they need the 'Big 5', and if they get them they should get another set in a different colour!


I don't see a Bugatti Veyron ever being worth more than the later Chiron, because it is essentially the same car continuously developed over the years, and the wealthy buyers will aways want the newest one. The McLaren F1 is different: It made such a monumental impact when it was introduced that I think it will always be worth a multiple of McLaren's and Gordon Murray's later Hypercars. I see the Porsche 959 and CGT as becoming more valuable than the 918 Hybrid, as the earlier cars were more impactful when they were released. 


If you are shopping for a new car that has a chance of appreciating beyond MSRP, you are looking for something that is impactful, not made every year, and is going to be produced in limited quantities - preferably with a series build number.  How to get the dealer to allocate you one of these cars? Well, that's the subject of another column!

Now, here are some impactful, mostly local, on-line offerings from Bring-A-Trailer.

1997 Acura Integra Type R in Burnaby, BC


George Curnew (from Lugnutz) and I had these in 1997 and we gave the guys with Ferraris and Porsches at Race City a very hard time. The original ITR is probably the best handling FWD car ever. 1997 was the first year in North America. The JDM front end conversion was a desirable upgrade in period. This car started the import tuning car craze of the late '90s and 2000's. Most have been stolen and stripped, or modded beyond recognition. This looks like a decent, if higher mileage, example. Mine was $32,000 new, but it will take considerably more to purchase this one.

1971 Datsun 240Z in Calgary


Another monumental car.  The 240Z basically spelled the end of the British sports car. At $3,500 it undercut an Alfa GTV by $1,000.  The comparatively prehistoric MGB GT was $3,200.  An E-Type was $5,800.  At the time, anything that came out of Japan was considered a cheap copy.  Not since. 


Like every car from the 1970s, these cars rusted badly.  This one looks very good and there is still time in the auction to get a closer look at it.  


Anything sold out of Canada has the potential to fall through the cracks, and BAT insists on a low reserve for Canadian cars.  Could be a bargain.

1990 RUF BTR III CABRIOLET in California


Having Ruf make you a BTR out of a 911 would cost you double the price of a 911 Turbo.  This car has a RUF VIN, so it was built up from a body-in-white. Their were only about 200 RUF VIN air-cooled cars made in the 80's and 90's.  Most were conversions of fully assembled Porsches. The BTR III had a motorsport version of the Bosch Motronic engine management system.  Ruf has the data files for the engine mapping on mainframe computer tape - but there is no machine in Germany that is able to read them!


I've had a couple of these, and they will just disappear from a stock 930 Turbo. The RUF 5-Speed, extra 100hp, and big brakes transform the driving experience.  These cars feel like they could go straight to Le Mans - and, in fact, a Group B Turbo 911 came 13th overall in the 1983 race, with a similar spec to this car, complete with electric windows. 


I see no reason why these cars shouldn't still be worth double the equivalent 930.

Auction Results From Last Week....

2003 Bentley Azure Final Series in Calgary

ended Monday May 9th at 12:44


Reserve Not Met $47,250


The seller got the peanut gallery upset by being less than transparent. They basically forced him to take the car to the Bentley dealer for an inspection, and the the tech picked the car apart and gave it a $47,000 repair estimate. Ouch! Surprisingly, the high bidder still wanted it, and was trying to close a deal. 


About the colour; It looks jarring and a bit ridiculous in Calgary. In a different context - say Miami Beach or in front of the Hotel de Paris - it might fit in a bit better. Bentley does call the colour Monaco Yellow...

1969 BMW 2002 in California

ended Thursday, May 12th @ 11:45


Sold $30,000


I think that this will prove to be a wise investment. A 'time-capsule' car with a great story, and fantastic condition.  The owner even had 9mm film coverage shot at the dealer in 1969. Cars like this just can't be replicated.


1977 PORSCHE 911S in Vancouver

Ended Friday, May 14th at 4:20


Sold: $80,077


The seller took the reserve off at $45k, which shows you what BAT valued the car at - and they are usually pretty accurate. He needn't have worried. In this case the car's condition and colour made worth the trouble to import, and it got top dollar from a US bidder who said he was going to drive it from Vancouver to Miami. 

FOR SALE

2007 Aston Martin V8 Vantage Roadster Sportshift


Bought at Desert European in Scottdale, AZ and imported to Canada when new (this was before there was an Aston dealer in Calgary). 93,000km Aston Dealer 4-year service ($2,800) just completed. One owner. Can't be reasonably faulted for year and mileage.

$60,000

2003 Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG (R230)


Brilliant Silver (744) on Charcoal, 59,000 miles, Retractable hardtop, 5.4L Supercharged V8 with 493hp, 516 lb/ft Torque, no warning lights, clean bodywork.


Service 'B' Service at Lone Star.

$45,000

1997 Mercedes-Benz SL500 Sport (R129)


135,000km, Brilliant Silver (744) on two-tone charcoal/grey (561). Sport Package, Panorama Roof. 4-cam V8 with 315hp , 347 lb/ft Torque.  


Bought new in Vancouver, then sold into Calgary. Rebuilt transmission. No winters. 1996 and 1997 SL500s had the '600' interior. Panorama roof is very rare and desirable in this car. Reconditioning in progress.

$25.000

1961 Jaguar Mk II 3.8L 4 Speed


Ultimate Mk II specification. One family owned. Bought in Switzerland and imported to Canada in 1977. Sympathetically refurbished over the years. Always driven annually and kept in excellent working order.

$35,000

1986 JAGUAR XJ-SC CABRIOLET


"One of the few Classic Car Bargains in today's heated market: 2 owner Western Canadian car, fully serviced"


Antelope Metallic (AFM) on Doeskin Leather, bought new in Winnipeg, 2 owners, 93k mileage. $14k+ in recent bills including engine-out major service ($8.5k), fuel system ($2k), new V-rated Vredestein Sprint Tires ($1,800), plus cosmetics. Now everything works and nothing leaks!


$CDN 20,000

1961 Land Rover S2A 88" Soft Top

Greensand on Black, Khaki canvas 'tilt', restoration to 'concours' standards. Substantial amount of NOS parts, with every mechanical component completely rebuilt by XJ Automotive Service.


$CDN 100,000


Final Assembly in Progress at www.lugnutz.ca

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Past Columns From Romanosky:

Value In Today's Overheated Market


Great German Engineers Explained


Cross-Border Shopping For Canadians


The Romantic Automobile


Vin Stamping and Other Irregularities


Servicing Costs: Managing Expectations


Supply Chain Woes


Why Are Some Cars More Costly To Maintain Than Others?


Le Mans Engine In Your Road Car?


Lugnutz: A Calgary Automotive Hub


Bring-A-Trailer Marches Upmarket


A Guide To Getting Rid of Unwanted Customers


Where has the horizontal homogeneity and vertical affinity gone?


What's Undervalued In Today's Market


The Mercedes Benz Gullwing - Sports Car Of The Century


A Brand By Any Other Name


Grace, Space, Pace: Jaguar's Future


Max Hoffman: World's Best Car Salesman


2021: A Year Of Living Safely


PORSCHE DNA: More Than Just Sports Cars


Vive la Difference


The Noble Cause


Update on Electric Vehicles in Alberta


Automotive F&I - The Good, The Bad, and the Awful


Restored or Original - Which Is Better To Drive?


Romanosky on Aston Martin


The Best Car In The World

Memories Of The Alfa Romeo GTV


Concours, Resto-mod or Original


Porsche, Ludvigsen & Collier: Excellence Is Expected


Tesla & Me: From Burning Man To The School Run


DC Disappointment: The Alberta DC Charging Infrastructure


Out Of Stock: What Is Going On With Retail Automotive?


Tales Of A Car Salesman Part 2: Having A Ruf Time


Tales Of A Car Salesman: Risky Purchases, Part 1


Road & Track Magazine: The Rise And Fall Of America's Great Automotive PublicationOn-


Line Collector and Specialty Car Auctions: How BaT Changed Everything


CSI And Google Reviews: The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly


On-Line Automobile Sales - Where Does This Leave Sales Managers and Salesmen?


Porsche + Bugatti + Rimac = ?


What About Hybrids?


Telsa's Head Start


Jaguar Gets Some Love


Camping With An Electric Truck: How Far Can We Go?


1000hp Tesla Plaid: Nobody May Have Asked For It, But We're Glad It's Here


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