The Psychoanalytic Center of California's

Continuing Education Committee

is pleased to present

Public Theories/Private Practices:

Thomas Ogden's Analytic Third and the Road to a Clinical Model of Intersubjectivity: 1979-1995

featuring

Joseph Aguayo, PhD

Psychoanalytic Center of California

Saturday, October 10, 2026

9:00 am to 11:00 am (PDT)

2 CE credits now available!

Location: (online).

The conference will be held online via Zoom.

Program Description

In today's program, Dr. Aguayo explores the early clinical evolution of Thomas Ogden and the relationship between an analyst’s “public theories” and “private practices.” Focusing on Ogden’s writings and case studies from 1979–1995, Dr. Aguayo examines how closely Ogden’s clinical work aligned with the innovative theoretical model he was developing. Particular attention is given to Ogden’s distinctive synthesis of Winnicott and Klein and his use of the “dialectical structure of experience” to bring differing psychoanalytic traditions into creative dialogue. Dr. Aguayo traces how these ideas contributed to Ogden’s emerging model of intersubjectivity, including his formulation of autistic-contiguous, paranoid-schizoid, and depressive modes of experience and his influential concept of the analytic third. By placing Ogden’s published theories alongside his clinical case material, the program considers both the productive tensions and surprising inconsistencies between what analysts say they do and what they actually do in the consulting room.

While tracing the development of these ideas, Dr. Aguayo also presents a highly contemporary model of analytic practice, richly illustrated with clinical material on the theme of intersubjectivity. A generous time for discussion follows the presentation.

Program Schedule

Target Audience

MD's, Psychologists, LCSW's, MFT's, Registered Nurses, candidates and members of psychoanalytic institutes, and student clinicians who are interested in psychoanalysis.

Course Objectives

At the end of this activity, participants should be better able to:

1. Describe the key elements of Ogden’s concept of the “Analytic Third.”
2. Identify one way Ogden integrates Kleinian and Winnicottian concepts in his clinical model.
3. Distinguish Ogden’s expanded view of the analyst’s reverie from traditional conceptions of countertransference.

Program Faculty

Joseph Aguayo, PhD, is a Training and Supervising Analyst at the Psychoanalytic Center of California and a Guest Member of the British Psychoanalytical Society.  He holds PhDs in both Clinical Psychology and European History from UCLA.

Dr. Aguayo has edited and written four books on Bion’s work: W. R. Bion’s Clinical Seminars in Los Angeles, (with B. Malin, 2013); Bion in Buenos Aires, (with L. Pistener de Cortinas and A. Regeczkey, 2017); Introducing the Clinical Work of W.R. Bion, (2023); and Bion in the Consulting Room: An Implicit Method Clinical Inquiry, (2024) (with Hinshelwood, Dermen and Abel-Hirsch). His next publication in December 2026: Winnicott in America, (Oxford Univ. Press) a collection of papers on Winnicott lecture visits to the United States in the 1960s.

Dr. Aguayo also founded and directs the Regional Bion Symposium, a consortium of North American analysts, who attend year-round online meetings on Bion, Winnicott, Klein and Post-Bionians. His most recent presentations: on July 4th, 2025, he gave an invited paper at the London Institute in commemoration of the unveiling of a bronze bust of W.R. Bion; on July 14th, he gave a paper on Winnicott’s Relationship with Melanie Klein at the British Psychoanalytic Association; and on November 15th, 2025, he gave the Madeleine Davis Memorial Lecture at the Squiggle Foundation, London, UK on Thomas Ogden’s Winnicottian-inflected contributions. He also presented his Bion research at last summer’s IPA Congress in Lisbon, Portugal (July 2025).

Continuing Education Credit

The Psychoanalytic Center of California designates this live activity for a maximum of 2 AMA PRA Category 1 Credit(s)™. Physicians should claim only the credit commensurate with the extent of their participation in this activity.



This activity has been planned and implemented in accordance with the accreditation requirements and policies of the California Medical Association (CMA)  through the Psychoanalytic Center of California. The Psychoanalytic Center of California  is accredited by the California Medical Association (CMA) to provide continuing medical education for physicians.

As per the California Board of Psychology, psychologists may apply AMA PRA Category 1 Credit(s)™ earned by attendance at this CME accredited live activity toward their continuing education requirement for licensing. 

The Psychoanalytic Center of California is approved by the California Association of Marriage and Family Therapists (CAMFT) to sponsor continuing education for LMFT's and LCSW's (CAMFT Approved Provider # 135374). The Psychoanalytic Center of California maintains responsibility for this program/course and its content. This course meets the qualifications for 2 hours of continuing education credit for LMFTs, LCSWs, LPCCs, and/or LEPs as required by the California Board of Behavioral Sciences. These learners must attend the entire course to claim credit; no partial credit is offered according to CAMFT requirements.

*Important note: Participants who plan to use the credits in another state should check with their licensing jurisdiction to see if the credits from an ACCME or CAMFT provider will be accepted.

Claiming Credit: Participants will receive a certificate of attendance at the event, which can be used toward licensing requirements. Credit is offered for actual instruction time and does not include breaks.

Refunds/Cancellations: Refunds, less a $10 administrative fee, will be made if cancellation notification is phoned or postmarked three (3) business days in advance of this program. There will be no refunds on requests received after the refund deadline. Full refunds are made in the event that PCC must cancel this program.

Returned Checks: A $25.00 service charge will be assessed for checks returned by the bank.

Grievances: While PCC goes to great lengths to assure fair treatment for all participants and attempts to anticipate problems, there will be occasional issues that come to the attention of the PCC staff which will require intervention and/or action on the part of the staff. Visit  www.p-c-c.org/ethics for PCC's procedural guidelines for handling such grievances.

Special Needs: Facilities are accessible to persons with disabilities. If you have a special need and plan to attend the conference, please contact the PCC Office by phone at (310) 478-4347 or via email at 0ffice@p-c-c.org. Special needs requests will be fulfilled if received one week prior to the event, which will ensure we have ample opportunity to meet your needs.

Disclosure: None of the planners for this educational activity have relevant financial relationship(s) to disclose with ineligible companies whose primary business is producing, marketing, selling, re-selling, or distributing healthcare products used by or on patients.

This activity has not received commercial support.

Confidentiality: By registering for this educational event, attendees agree to strictly maintain confidentiality of any clinical material shared and will not distribute or convey such confidential material outside of the conference. 

Program Planners

Continuing Education Committee: Leigh Tobias, PhD (chair); Jennifer Kunst, PhD (member and CME coordinator); Chris Minnick, MD (member and CME chair); Persila Conversano, PsyD and Stacey Nicklas, PsyD (members); Jason Snyder, LMFT and Yelena Kashtuyeva, LMFT (candidate members).

Registration

General admission: $75

Current PCC Candidates in-Seminar: FREE

PCC Post-Seminar Candidate Admission: $35

Current PCC PPP Student Admission: $35

Full time students and candidates from other institutes admission: $35

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